Athanasian Creed in English set to Anglican chant?
  • trentonjconn
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    Does this exist somewhere? Any leads?
  • FSSPmusic
    Posts: 517
    See last year's thread:
    https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/21517/simple-settings-of-athanasian-creed/
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  • ServiamScores
    Posts: 3,291
    I believe this is what you are looking for:

    https://youtu.be/J4UFMPkpuKA?si=UORswreLIHzrcmvG
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  • trentonjconn
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    Oops, I had forgotten I asked about this last year. Thank you for the reminder, Patrick. Serviam, what you've posted is exactly what I'm looking for. Could you link me to where I might purchase it? I'm sure it's user error on my part, but I'm having trouble finding it on your site.
  • ServiamScores
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    Send me an email (#reasons) and I’ll pass it along to you. PsalliteDomino.com
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  • M. Jackson Osborn
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    The above examples are nice but they are not Anglican chant.
    All Anglican chant has the following rhythm -

    For a single chant: - | . . | - || - | . . | . . | - ||

    For a double chant: - | . . | - || - | . . | . . | - || - | . . | - || - | . . | . . | - ||
    (I have on [thankfully] rare occasions seen a triple or quadruple chant.)
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  • RoborgelmeisterRoborgelmeister
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    The rule of 3 and 5 applies to the vast majority of Anglican Chants. It can be doubled. There are, however, some other patterns, such as some specialty chants. The Parish Psalter has some examples.
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  • GerardH
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    While the venerable M. Jackson Osborn is right that Anglican chant proper is pointed as he describes, I am yet to find an Anglican psalter which points the Quicunque vult according to ordinary Anglican chant methods. Almost without exception, it is set to a shorter single chant by Tallis. Please see a few examples attached.
    Quicunque vult - The Church Psalter and Hymn Book 1855.pdf
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    Quicunque vult - One hundred Chants by the best Composers adapted to the Psalms of David - 1860.pdf
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    Quicunque vult - The Australian Psalter 1903.pdf
    2M
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  • M. Jackson Osborn
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    This creed sung to AC might become tiresome after a while.
    One should perhaps want to change to multiple chants at several key places of the text.
  • RoborgelmeisterRoborgelmeister
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    I am repeating myself, with the item I mention upoaded.
    In this very odd book, "The Free-rhythm Psalter: The Words Pointed and Accented...," by Francis Pott (translator of 'The Strife is O'er'), The Athanasian Creed is given twice. I think this might well be considered a curiosity, although Psalm Tone 8 with the short termination is worthy of a second look.
    Athanasian Creed The Free-rhythm Psalter Potts.pdf
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  • ServiamScores
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    So what do you call such harmonized chant if not “Anglican”?

    Also, for reference, this is where I got that tone:
    (2 mins in)
    https://youtu.be/ypz1wSAllMU?si=PDFRLavheYuK-Ik0

    I could be perhaps forgiven for calling this “Anglican chant” lol.
  • davido
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    The James O’Donnell version is definitely an Anglican chant. He repeats the reciting tone as the first chord in the cadence formula. It functions as an accented upper neighbor sort of chord, but since it’s the same harmony as the reciting tone, it might seem like there are not enough chords to fill out the usual Anglican chant formula.
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  • ServiamScores
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    Here's an updated & pointed version, which uses the current ordinariate translation as found in the St. Gregory Prayer Book. Admittedly, some spots of it are not quite as nice to sing as the original, but there are many parts that are more intelligible linguistically, so the tradeoff seems worth it. As for my pointing style, that will be for you to decide.
    Quiqumque Vult (Pointed Ordinariate Version, 2026).pdf
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  • trentonjconn
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    Excellent, and right in time. It'll get used at our little parish this Sunday. You've made my boss a happy man.
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  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
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    For completeness, here is the original O'Donnell Anglican double chant for Psalm 139.
    Psalm 139-x.pdf
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