Technical note about MS-Publisher
  • chonakchonak
    Posts: 9,313
    Just a heads-up: if you or any colleagues use Microsoft Publisher to prepare materials for your parish bulletin or other documents, please be aware that it is going away permanently in October 2026:
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-US/publisher/microsoft-publisher-will-no-longer-be-supported-after-october-2026

    This has nothing to do with CMAA, of course, but I did want to warn people who use the program in case they did not get the e-mail notice from Microsoft.
  • Bobby Bolin
    Posts: 439
    Wasn't that supposed to happen last year?
  • I believe the original announcement said October 13, 2026.
  • ServiamScores
    Posts: 3,346
    May I heartily suggest a free alternative: Affinity (formerly Affinity Publisher). It is an inDesign clone and works very well.
    https://www.affinity.studio
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  • Palestrina
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    Can Publisher export to a format that’s readable in Affinity and preserves all the text boxes and objects?
  • rich_enough
    Posts: 1,112
    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the stand-alone version of Publisher will continue to function after the deadline in October, though without updates.
  • @Palestrina, I have not been able to discover a compatible format that does what you are asking. I've done one of two things: start from scratch or, open Affinity and Publusher side by side and copy and paste content from Publisher to Affinity. Depending on the project this is all I've been able to figure out. The issue with exporting Publisher as a PDFthen importing into affinity is every sing text character is its own object. I.e. ever sing letter and punctuation mark is its own text box.
  • AbbysmumAbbysmum
    Posts: 209
    @ServiamScores Thank you for the suggestion about Affinity! I have been mourning the upcoming loss of Publisher. I mean, it's owned by Canva (which also works, but frustrating that its all online), so it's nice that this is actually something to download.
  • MatthewRoth
    Posts: 3,739
    Canva is fine for graphics imho. It’s not so good for anything else.
  • It seems I am using Publisher 2016 which is already out of support, so I guess I may be able to limp along on it for a bit longer since I am already using out of date software.

    I think a point to consider is how to migrate to something that in an emergency someone else could actually use. In my case I make all of our funeral programs, which could in theory happen at a moment I am away from the office (if, you know, I was ever actually away from the office for long enough for that to happen). Word I think is the least bad solution to that since everyone at least knows a little of how to use it. I am on the fence about migrating all the funeral programs to Word or only creating a sort of emergency template in Word.
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  • Susdem
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    I've been gradually switching over to Canva and have been very happy with it. I actually think the quality of our worship aids has gone up. The downside is I usually take copies of worship aids with me to a new job so I can use them as templates but that's harder to do with Canva.

    Canva Pro is also free for non-profits, fyi.
  • davido
    Posts: 1,233
    I switched to word
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  • irishtenoririshtenor
    Posts: 1,453
    I've been using Word primarily since 2010. For what I need to use it for, it works great.
  • @Susdem. Print / save as PDF?
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  • novusgordo
    Posts: 40
    @StephenMatthew: that works for archival, but not for being able to re-use / edit previous material.

    My vote would be for some sort of LaTeX-based system, given that you need that for gregorio anyway. I've been doing this long enough that I just write LaTeX by hand in a code editor, but I wonder if tools like Overleaf support the gregorio package?
  • MatthewRoth
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    Overleaf has long included it, since it’s been in TeXLive for years, although they missed TL2026, so it’s not the most up to date version.

    Now, the problem is that Overleaf has had to cut back on compilations for free plans. LaTeX especially if you really are smart and use latexmk takes too long with Gregorio to only use the free plan for anything more than a test shared with other users when something breaks.
  • ServiamScores
    Posts: 3,346
    For those making the migration away from publisher to something (anything) else, there are lessons to be learned from the sunset of Finale:

    1.) backup your files if need be
    2.) save them in universal formats if they exist. At a BARE MINIMUM, this means saving all your important documents as PDFs, since these are universally readable files. If there are export to rich text options, do both, because then you’ll know you have editable / copyable text.
    3.) start the transition sooner than you think you need to; this whole process takes time, if not automated in some way. That is, just the process of opening and saving files in alternate formats takes time when you have many files. This is to say nothing of the time it will take to become similarly competent in another software.
    4.) if you’re hell-bent on sticking with the outdated version, then you need to run it on a stable machine that is not connected to the internet.

    I can tell you from first-hand experience with Camtasia, the old version might work for a while. A good long while. But one day, when you are least prepared, it will suddenly stop working all together, and you won’t even be able to go back in and save your files to an alternate format. In my case, my computer updated overnight, and it forked something in the system and my software couldn’t even boot anymore. Suddenly you have a deadline and the only tool you know to get the work done doesn’t work at all anymore. Don’t let that happen to you.

    And a bit of parting advice: I implore you to not settle for just a word processor. You CAN do beautiful things in Word (I know multiple colleagues who do) but I promise you it’s more work than you think. Proper desktop publishing software is the way to go for bulletins and fancy worship aids. They are actually designed for this type of work, rather than merely permitting you to accomplish it with enough patience.

    And a second bit of parting advice: don’t start a new Adobe subscription. You’ll very likely regret it if you’re not already ensconced in their ecosystem.
  • MatthewRoth
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    This is especially true of Windows users: macOS does not update without warning. However, I second the rest. Also, save as many independent bits such as graphics as you can. This is one advantage to LaTeX (as much as it also complicates things): I have to explicitly save image files in the same directory (or somewhere accessible, specified in the document); the file name is directly inserted into my document (long story short), instead of dragging and dropping, which is bad if you then can't read a file in a now-inaccessible format.

    I am doing my booklets in LaTeX. I sometimes compromise and use Scribus for formatting the hymns, but I have also needed to simply live with the PNG output from Musescore inserted as a graphic directly in LaTeX. I'm pretty happy. The advantage is that I care a bit more about chant than hymns, and about the formatting overall, and I don't put anything else in round notation, so it's not a loss if the hymns take a hit (and they do anyway in keeping them to one page and also readable…).
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  • novusgordo
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    Quoth @ServiamScores:
    if you’re hell-bent on sticking with the outdated version, then you need to run it on a stable machine that is not connected to the internet.
    Why do you think I have so much old computer hardware lying around my house? (At least, that's what I keep telling myself, and also what I keep telling my wife!) At the same time, though, that's not really an option for most software published after about 2015 or so — once support drops, the software often won't run at all. (Case in point: Office:mac 2019.)