who asked me to comment on a Graduale Simplex issue?

Paul F. Ford

A few weeks ago, or maybe longer, someone mentioned me in connection with the Graduale Simplex issue.

I can't find the discussion. Can anyone help?

Aside from blaming my age, I have had a rough summer of diagnostics and emergency room visits. They discovered that my problem in my gallbladder. I am having it out on October 7. Please pray: I have liver complications.

Thanks,
Paul

matthewj

You might be looking for this thread:

https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22719/history-of-the-graduale-simplex/p1

Prayers for your health, Dr Ford!

Palestrina

I’d be delighted for your thoughts, Dr Ford.

The farthest I’ve reached so far is the ‘discovery’ that the Kyriale Simplex predates the first Graduale Simplex by two years.

How interesting it would be to know the origins of the project. I am especially curious about whether attempts to do something like this predate Sacrosanctum Concilium.

I add my prayers to the others here for your good health.

GerardH

@Palestrina you might be interested to know, then, that the first Graduale Simplex doesn't contain a Kyriale

a_f_hawkins

Bugnini mentions a Proprium Simplex of 1962 as showing the need [Bugnini 'Reform' p.121 footnote] but this seems more like Rossini Propers in German : https://www.ccwatershed.org/2014/05/19/pdf-download-extremely-rare-book-propers-1962/

The Notitiae announcement of the 2nd edition GS is explicit that for convenience it brings into one volume GS, KS, and some chants of the Mass. Page 291 of this

smvanroode

The difference between de 1962 Proprium Simplex and the 1967 Graduale Simplex is that the 1962 edition uses a set of simple melodic formulas, but retains the texts of the propers, while the Graduale Simplex uses a reduced set of seasonal propers, but with authentic Gregorian chants.

Jaschinski makes clear that, when the drafts of Musicam sacram were put together, there was discussion about whether the simple melodies SC 117 asked for should be texts set to psalm tones or chants taken from the Gregorian repertoire. Eventually, they choose not to mention a possibility of using psalm tones; it was considered substandard.

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