Roman Canon, notated in Latin
  • CGM
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    Anyone have a copy of the Roman Canon (Eucharistic Prayer I), text in Latin, fully notated in neums? Needed this weekend for a priest who wants to chant it but can't remember how the text syncs up with the melodic formula.
  • GerardH
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    What you need are either the Ordo missæ in cantu or the Liber concelebrantium from Solesmes. I imagine your time-frame doesn't allow that.
  • SponsaChristi
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    What you need are either the Ordo missæ in cantu or the Liber concelebrantium from Solesmes. I imagine your time-frame doesn't allow that

    It’s also in the 2011 edition of the Latin Missale Romanum.

    At this point his best bet would be to find a priest who has a copy of one of the aforementioned books.
  • Xopheros
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    From a deceased friend, we have an old Missale Romanum from 1958. Due to its age, it is obviously no longer licit, but I can send you a photo of the "Praefatio solemnis communis", so that you can use it as a starting point and adapt it to the proper modern text.

    Would that be helpful? If yes, how can I send it to you? It seems that private messages in this forum do not support attachments.
  • MatthewRoth
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    The tone of the Canon for the NO has no connection to the preface however.
  • smvanroodesmvanroode
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    See the attached pdf for the notated Canon Romanus from the 2008 Missale Romanum.
    Canon Romanus.pdf
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  • RoborgelmeisterRoborgelmeister
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    the notated Canon Romanus from the 2008 Missale Romanum

    This is clearly realted to the Preface Tone, and to the Pater Noster.
    I used to hear Eucharistic Prayer III chanted in Latin to the same tone, but that priest has died.
  • MatthewRoth
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    Meh. It’s the solemn tone ad lib and is vaguely mode 3/4. It’s not the preface.
  • RoborgelmeisterRoborgelmeister
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    Not the preface, but clearly related.
  • SponsaChristi
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    […] we have an old Missale Romanum from 1958. […] Would that be helpful? […]

    Generally speaking, prior to the liturgical reforms, the Roman Canon wasn’t recited audibly, let alone sung. It was recited by the priest sotto voce. There is no chant notation for it in the earlier missals.
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  • MatthewRoth
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    This is clearly related to the Preface Tone, and to the Pater Noster.


    But how?

    The preface has the Do clef on the third line. It privileges the minor third, beginning La-Do, then descending with the Si ornament down and back up in the solemn tone; the only similarity to mode 3 would be the melody hanging out on Si. The La is subsequently ornamented by Sol as well. The same is essentially true of the simplex tone, although there is less decoration.

    In contrast the tone for the Canon has the clef on the fourth line, with the dominant on La, the ornament being Sol-La. The decoration on Si and the descending thirds comes in at the most solemn portion to make it vaguely mode IV.
  • CGM
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    Dear Mr. Van Roode,

    Thanks so much for this! It's exactly what I was looking for.

    I've cleaned it up a bit with GeniusScan, and attach that file here.
    RomanCanon_Latin_Neums.pdf
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  • MatthewRoth
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    CGM, thank you for introducing me to that app. Normally, for scans, the Notes app on iOS is sufficient, or else I can use a few different tools depending on where I am without too much hassle, but I have long wished to clean up (and hopefully get a document on which macOS Preview can use OCR, or else I’ll convert it myself) a scan of something that is a collection of photographs replete with the person’s fingers.
  • CGM
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    GeniusScan works great, is easy to use, and is free.
    It's all the rage in the college-musician set, for students who would rather turn their scores into PDF's and then carry around one tablet instead of innumerable folios, photocopies, books, and binders.
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