Classical Masses
  • ian_udell
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    I recently did an abridged version of Mozart's Requiem in D minor (Introit, Offfertory, Dies Irae, Rex Tremendae, Confutatis, and Lacrimosa) and I got a lot of great feedback from it, so I would like to do something like it again. Does anyone have any idea of Good "Classical" masses to do for a Novus Ordo? A Missa Brevis would be good.
  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
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    We did Mozart's Spatzenmesse this past Sunday - that's pretty easy
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  • emac3183
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    There have been several threads recently about orchestral masses. Bolded are ones done recently at Holy Family in Saint Louis Park.

    Here's my classical list so far:
    Coronation Mass (Mozart)...we're doing this one for Holy Family and are abridging the Benedictus considerably from its already-short-enough form.
    Sparrow Mass (Mozart)
    Missa Solemnis in C K337 (Mozart)
    Missa Brevis in D Major K194 (Mozart)
    Missa Sancti Nicolai (Haydn)
    Missa Sancti Gabrielis (Haydn)
    Kleine Orgelmesse (Haydn)
    Missa Sancti Raphaelis (M. Haydn—need to buy parts): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgp4uU6YlRw&list=PLA43jlnnERCIO6aOrXKBtOdoqGqxi_90A&index=5
    Missa Sancti Leopoldi (M.Haydn): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3-SL8Tkay4&list=PLA43jlnnERCIO6aOrXKBtOdoqGqxi_90A&index=28
    Missa Brevis in F Major (Haydn) – Beautiful!
    Requiem (Faure)...needs textual finagling to work but people love it.
    Mass No. 2 in G Major (Schubert)
    Missa Solemnis in D (Sussmayr)
    Lord Nelson Mass (Haydn)…Long Gloria!
    Hummel Bb or D Minor
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  • Xopheros
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    The masses by Gregor Joseph Werner are very high quality and some are quite short, like, e.g., the Missa "Iam hyems transiit" or the Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis".

    I must admit that, unti recently, I have never heard of Werner, the predecessor of Joseph Haydn. This changed when a friend brought a baroque lute duet (sic!) by Werner to one of our monthly duo sessions (disclaimer: the recording in the link is not by us, but by much better professional lutanists). This duet is of such outstanding quality that it stirred my interest in Werner's music and I was amazed both at the quantity and the quality of his output.
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  • Xopheros
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    As someone asked me about it in a private message, here is a list of all of Werner's masses including sources to extant manuscripts and modern editions.

    For most of his masses, there are no modern editions (but for some, there are). This does not mean, however, that these are out of reach: There is always a library listed with the shelfmark so that you can write to the library and order a copy of the manuscript. If you have good musicians with some early music experience (which unfortunately are rare), they can play from the manuscript, or you can transcribe the manuscript, or ask someone to do it for your (maybe an LLM even does a good first try that only requires some proof reading).
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  • DL
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    Another vote here for Haydn’s Missa Brevis in F, aka the Jugendmesse for which you need a couple of bonny sopranos.
  • kevinfkevinf
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    Haydn Mass in Bb.
    Mozart Mass in F.

  • Jeffrey Quick
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    Xopheros, I notice that many of the editions link to a website that seems to be defunct. Do you know anything about this?
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  • Xopheros
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    @Jeffrey_Quick Just had a closer look at the links to modern editions and noticed that the deep links have a subdirectory "pdf/" too much in the middle and are thus broken.

    The domain edition.esser-skala.at still exists, and if you click on the link to Werner's music, you will find all editions, including many of his masses. The editor Wolfgang Esser-Skala does an invaluable great job! Hopefully these editions will find widespread use to revive Werner's music.

    Off topic: How does one tag a user with a space in the user name? I have tried an underscore instead, but am not sure whether this works.
  • NihilNominisNihilNominis
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    If I can add to the excellent list above:

    Mozart K49, Mass in G (this is sweet, lightly orchestrated, fits the liturgy like a glove, with a bit of playful joy but very reverent and consistent textures)

    Mozart K259, Mass in C - "organ solo" (simply a joy to perform, solemn and dignified throughout. I have the dubious honor of having been Bass soloist, organist - it has an obbligato solo -, and conductor for the Benedictus on this Mass once).

    Gounod Messe Breve no. 7 - I orchestrated this afresh for strings, horn, trombone, and organ, and I think it pulled it into a new place. If you want the parts, let me know!
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  • DominicanCantor
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    MOZART CREDOMESSE
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  • Liam
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    W. A. Mozart - KV 192 (186f) - Missa brevis in F major - has always been a favorite of mine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz6cR-t6km4

    The Credo of this mass is famous for the opening four-note figure (DO-RE-FA-MI) that Mozart more famously used in the finale of his Jupiter Symphony No.41.
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