Using AI is like using any other powerful tool—be it a table saw, a lathe, or a motorcycle. If you don't know how to use it properly, you can easily hurt yourself or someone else.
It is also important to understand its technical limits. Every AI model has a limited context window, a limited number of responses. After a certain number of exchanges—whether you are on a free plan or a paid subscription—the system can start to drift, hallucinate, or forget the original guardrails of the conversation. Kinda of like what happens here on the forum...lol
That said, there is absolutely no shame in using AI as a tool to help organize your thoughts, structure research, or polish your prose. Writers, academics, and musicians have always used tools to help articulate their ideas clearly. The key is knowing how to manage the tool, rather than letting it do the thinking for you. Anyone using an LLM has to know, in their own mind and heart, if the response is truly in their own voice.
Don, I cannot agree, and I think that AI models cannot be used as intellectual tools. They are literally built to simulate thought and to deceive. It's like trying to Incorporated LSD into the Way Of Perfection. There do exist tools to aid in thought, but they are not statistical simulacra.
“They that make them are like unto them, and so are all they who put their trust in them.”
I certainly don't and won't craft text with AI here (except perhaps for a parody of text, with the source medium clearly attributed; I've not done that yet that I can remember).
But I have no compunction to use it as an amplified search engine for *possible* documentation and sources, and if I find something that *might* prove helpful, I would share it but attribute the source mechanism (I think I've done that once so far, but I could be wrong).
I am not of the AI-is-demonic school that seems to have captured the imaginations of some (not here so much as more broadly). Myriad instances of fallen human nature - thus far - appear to fully explain the evils that it can midwife, and I am of the traditional school of Catholic praxis to never be glib and casual about things that should only be spoken of with greatest discretion.
One of my proverbs about AI: There is no I - nor Me/We/Us - in AI. That means it cannot authentically: love, hate, trust, distrust, hope, or despair*. It bears the impress (by act and omission) of those who (1) determine that and how it ought to be made, (2) its designers, (3) the source material chosen (and not chosen) by said designers, and (4) its prompters (aka "users" - a terrible word except for the ... addicted).
AI does not create authentically original thought. It's a tool, and people seized with cupidity and avarice will rush to profit from it, especially off of the credulous - thus working both ends of fallen human nature. That's true of so much of human artifacts. Collectively, they act as evidence of the Fall.
* By contrast, certain created beings remaining uncategorized here can authentically hate, distrust, and despair, and have perpetual allergies to created beings who can authentically love, trust, and hope.
@Andrew_Malton I think this only describes one aspect of AI capacity viz. text responses to open-ended queries. But instances can be used to help create databases, catalogs, programming scripts, transcriptions, workable translations, and so on - all of which should be regarded as starting points, not ending points, but can meaningfully facilitate intellectual work without any deception or debasement. I'm aware of a couple chant researchers using them in one or more of these capacities.
I must vehemently disagree with the view that it is an acceptable tool for really anything having to do with research in the humanities. Speaking as a teacher, I can only say that it has had a devastating effect on the writing that students submit for music history classes. It's enough to make me want to quit every time I come across it. It has leveled out the style of student writing in a way I can only describe as off-putting, while also multiplying the amount of pure nonsense that gets turned in. In response to pretty much any actually interesting question about music history or theory, you are likely to get pure rubbish in response, at least as of 2026.
Honestly, even as a search tool, research tool, or organizational tool, I am deeply unimpressed by its capabilities. Perhaps this will improve. But I sort of doubt it. When people started relying on Google/Wikipedia, that was bad enough. But this signals the end of higher ed as we know it. I think there is no future in music pedagogy that is not an AI-free future.
Economically, using it for search is a waste of resources compared to ordinary Google search. (Magnifica Humanitas #101). OTOH using it to summarise existing corpora of information can give a starting point even if the style is becoming too recognisable.
Individually, relying on it to do the thinking for you weakens the will and darkens the intellect. See the publications of Emily Bender (U Washington). It atrophies learning.
Epistemically, it gives confident responses without any basis for the confidence. Today I was watching a Zoom conference on a technical subject (Excel modelling) where academics and practitioners set various LLMs problems and showed how unreliable their output can be, and strategies for improving the outcomes. You can either learn how to do something yourself or learn how to check a supplied answer. The latter works for those who already know how to understand the output.
What if a researcher wanted to find every instance of the littera significativa 's' in a particular digitized manuscript, as a basis for further research? Is this only a worthwhile research building block if he does it personally by hand?
Part of the problem is that regular Google search has been broken for years. You can learn to get around that, but it’s getting harder now that AI is involved.
The real problem is that while AI might not be helpful for searching and for generative usage with free versions, it could be quite powerful or otherwise useful if you’re doing code, especially if you pay.
I don’t love using it but it’s gotten me out of a few jams with LaTeX. Sometimes they get worse before they get better, but paying for the latest and greatest would probably help. :(
In that sense it’s not far removed from going through StackExchange and copying old solutions.
@Charles_Weaver, I completely understand and validate your frustration as an educator. When students use these tools to bypass the actual struggle of thinking, it atrophies learning and results in the "pure rubbish" you are seeing. They are using a table saw without knowing how to square a piece of wood.
But there is a vast gulf between asking an LLM to "write a paper on Josquin" and using it as an analytical engine under strict constraints.
When I use it for research, I don't use it like Google. I condition the model with explicit parameters to work within—giving it a specific corpus or criteria and instructing it to: "Analyze this data using exactly this rule." I routinely cross-examine the output by taking what Microsoft Copilot generates and running it through Gemini or ChatGPT to look for discrepancies.
When used this way, the AI isn't doing the thinking or establishing the voice; it is executing a highly specific task under human direction. It requires you to know your subject deeply enough to set the guardrails and spot the hallucinations. The crisis in education isn't that the tool exists, but that users are letting the tool be the master rather than the servant.
Yep. I construct reasoned searches with a given set of factual assumptions (that evolve in the course of the process) in a way that mere Boolean-lite search engines now typically frustrate. It's like an intern substitute. One way to start doing it is to invite it to interview you, as it were, earlier rather than later in the process, but after the initial framework. I correct its biases (and there can be lots of them) as needed.
How I miss my relationship with my living, breathing best executive secretary (who had been a bank officer and then ran her own insurace agency earlier in her life) when I was an associate at a law firm nearly four decades ago.... As my father taught me, "secretary" was a profession, and it was my responsibility to keep her practised in her skills that she had labored to acquire. We were a great team; partners were envious.
When it can do that, it will be a useful tool. I have yet to see it. Even then I'm not sure it will have been worth the loss of a general population of undergraduate students who can read a book or even an article without machine assistance.
Also, I do think the exercise would probably be more valuable by hand!
Looking for a specific text match in digitised images is a good example of the kind of laborious work these machine-learning models can do more easily. Though "every" is a high bar, and you'd still have to read it by eye to check if everything it found is indeed an 's' or whether it missed any because of resolution or contrast problems. While such tasks might be done locally by an application with no network or data centre demand, the easy availability of a general purpose tool means that people are less likely to obtain and learn specific tools. You can install a free or cheap shareware PDF merging tool or just upload the PDFs to a website and not care that you've just given your data to an AI training slurping machine.
That sent me down an interesting byway - there's lots of research on digitising manuscripts, which must be fascinating for those with the time to study it.
https://repertorium.eu/archival-tools/ Optical Music Recognition (OMR) These 400,000 images come from the Musical Paleography Workshop of the Abbey of Solesmes.
I'm so worried about the brain-drain aspect of AI.
Years ago, I read something to the effect of: before the moveable-type printing press, when books were relatively scarce and the population was largely illiterate, people relied on their memories. You had to remember facts, processes, everything you needed for everyday life. You learned by having a connection to another person, a teacher, a mentor, a parent, a neighbour. The social process of transmitting and creating ideas was foundational to how we remembered things and transmitted knowledge.
Once the printing press was invented and books became plentiful and cheap (and literacy increased substantially), we began to offload a lot of those memory tasks. In many ways it was good, because we could write down much more than we are capable of remembering as individuals. This let us have great leaps and bounds in the development of science and technology, for example. It made transmitting of ideas easier over long distances and long periods of time. We didn't need to be connected to our teachers by time or space anymore. The way we used our memory shifted from remembering things to remembering where to find things. It also removed some of the social process of learning, because instead of learning from a person directly, the teacher functions more as a facilitator, helping us navigate the information conserved in print from many other people.
That's where what I read ended. This would have been a good 20 years ago, just as Google was emerging as an everyday tool. We can continue this thought and extend it:
Once things like search engines came into the picture, the way we use our memories changed again. Now it's not even remembering where to find things, but instead we learn how to prompt the engine. Instead of knowing what book we need to look in, we ask a machine to find the book for us. Human interaction is pretty much removed at this point. With search engines (without LLM), you still need to go and read the material, synthesize and collate it, and generally understand it. You have to know what information to retain and what to discard, which requires critical thought. You know what something isn't as much as you know something is. You also need to remember what question you asked the engine to find the material again.
But with LLM, you don't even have to really know how to prompt the engine, or have an understanding of the material. The reading, synthesis and collation already has happened. We don't fully have to understand something to give an answer. With just simple search engines, we have long known there is a bias problem; with LLM that problem tends to increase exponentially. The need to critically think about material, already damaged by things like Google searches, is further eroded.
I think sometimes about how much less I know now, even though I'm definitely older and supposedly wiser. I have an exceptional memory due to my neurodivergence, and while age plays a factor in declining memory, I couldn't even tell you my kids' phone numbers. But it's not even just remembering details like that; it's understanding things.
I'm a young GenXer, and like a lot of you here I've lived the last 3 stages (books to search engines to LLM). Whereas 20-25 years ago, if I wanted to know something I would go to the library and get a 200 page book on the subject. If I needed a recipe, I called my grandmother. I could maybe read a couple more books on a topic. I could understand a topic of interest to me. We were kind of all in that same boat.
Nowdays, an AI summary on Google is good enough a lot of the time. I know it has impacted by ability to critically think, to write, to have confidence in what I'm doing (because I haven't had the chance to internalize something). I can see and feel the difference. I can see the difference in my oldest children (who are just now reaching adulthood and who were homeschooled in their earliest years of school) and my youngest (who always went to school and are still in primary school). How they process and synthesize information is totally different.
To use an LLM *well* you need to develop excellent prompting skills - skills that humanists who are deeply read and experienced in human nature and personal, historical, institutional, and historical biases (not only intentional, but by what's likely to be readily available and what's not likely to be readily available - this is the moment for all that professional training in epistemic humility among scholars like historians) tend to possess to a far greater degree than *typical* STEM folk these days.
My father was an electrical engineer (worked on, among other things, the communication systems for the lunar module and landing vehicle for Apollo 11 onward *) who prized depth in the humanities in his engineers. When his youngest son (not me) wanted to major in computer science in college, father blocked that - telling him he could learn what he needed to know technically without majoring in it, but that to be the best user of those skills, he needed deep roots in the humanities. Dad was *very* right. My brother is re-teaching people (including his own staff and students at a technical university - and that university is very supportive of his work in that regard) this lesson with the advent of LLMs.
* I have many memories of him working his slide rule at the family secretary desk 50-55 years ago and more, and trying to illustrate how much more expansive a slide rule was than a hand calculator - because the slide rule trained your imagination to understand the *terrain* of answers and which parts of the terrain were likely to be "richer" in possibilities and those that were not. Et cet. I lived to become very proficient in my own professional specialization and then got to observe how younger people treat me as an anthropomorphized alternative to Good and that if they were selective in their "inputs" I would spit out the answer (rather than advice) they wanted validated; I had to retrain them, shall we say. Some were beyond retraining.
PS: Church work, as it were, appears to me to be a challenging terrain on which to deploy LLMs. Why? Constraints. What kind? Well, let's start with....
1. Power structures that incentivize inertia and discincentivize healthy change, and thereby discourage curiosity.
2. Internalized biases that don't necessarily get laid out clearly in prompting because they are like oxygen in the imagination.
3. Passive aggressive niceness culture that can also play an inhibiting role.
@Abbysmum, I think your concern is the strongest argument in this thread. If AI becomes a substitute for reading, thinking, and wrestling with ideas, then we really are diminishing ourselves.
What has helped me is treating AI as a research assistant rather than an authority. Earlier this year I developed a hymnological study for my parish. Before AI ever entered the picture, I built the theological framework, established the evaluation criteria, and provided examples. Only then did I use AI to apply those criteria consistently across a large body of texts.
That doesn't mean the AI is trustworthy. In fact, while evaluating "There Is a Wideness in God's Mercy", I asked when the hymn first appeared in Catholic hymnals/ missallettes. The AI confidently cited the Westminster Hymnal of 1912. Since I own copies of the 1912, 1939, and 1952 editions, I was able to check the claim directly. The hymn wasn't there. In other words, the AI was wrong, and without independent verification I might have repeated the error.
It might interest some of you to know that using my C1-C4 classification system developed for my hymnological study "There is a Wideness in God's Mercy" is C3, of Protestant origin. Even though the hymn was authored by a Catholic priest. When you add back in the Catholic verses as Fr. Faber's 13 verse prose, the hymn immediatelty jumped to C2, a Catholic devotional hymn rather than one of Protestant origin.
Liam's point about the humanities is exactly right. The better your grounding in history, theology, and language, the better equipped you are to catch an AI's mistakes. In my experience, AI rewards expertise far more than it replaces it.
The danger is when we stop doing the hard work ourselves. The benefit is when it helps us do more of the work we already know how to do.
Yes, AI makes mistakes. Here's one I caught. That's why the human scholar still matters.
edit--- Mea Culpa - it was pointed out to me that the hymn "There is a Wideness in God's Mercy" does in fact appear in the 1912 edition in the section of hymns for Missions under the first line of text "Soul's of Men! Why will ye scatter"
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