Palm/Passion Sunday
  • Richard MixRichard Mix
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    St. David of Wales, Richmond Calif.

    Hosanna to the Son of David (plainchant-Proulx)/Hosanna Filio David (Schubert)
    All glory laud & honor VALET WILL ICH
    Ps. 22 (Parish Book of Psalms)
    Grad. Christus factus est (American Gradual)
    Passion according to Luke (plainchant at 8:00; Lassus at 11:00 choral Mass)
    Off. O sacred head O HAUPT
    Comm. Pater si non potest (American Gradual)
  • CaleferinkCaleferink
    Posts: 440
    All Souls, Sanford, FL

    Hosanna to the Son of David (adapt. Proulx)
    All Glory, Laud, and Honor
    Psalm 22 (Frisina, adapt. Leferink)
    Glory to you, O Word of God… (Proulx)
    O Sacred Head, Surrounded at cantor-only Masses; At the Name of Jesus (Berry) at choral Mass
    Sanctus XVIII
    ICEL Mysterium
    Agnus Dei XVIII
    Father, If This Cup May Not Pass (Nestor)
    Were You There
  • trentonjconn
    Posts: 692
    St. Aelred Catholic Church
    Bishop, Georgia
    The Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter

    Principle Mass, 11am
    Ordinary: Englished Mass XVII
    Blessing of Palms and Procession:
    -Hosanna Filio David (GR)
    -Pueri Hebraeorum (Palmer and Burgess)
    -All Glory Laud and Honor
    -Ingrediente (Palmer and Burgess)
    Introit: Palmer and Burgess Plainchant Gradual
    Gradual: St. Peter Gradual
    Tract: St. Peter Gradual
    Sung Passion (chant, no polyphonic turba)
    Credo: recto tono, accompanied
    Offertory: Palmer and Burgess Plainchant Gradual
    Offertory Hymn: At the Cross Her Station Keeping
    Communion: Palmer and Burgess Plainchant Gradual
    Communion Other: Vexilla Regis (chant), Psalm 22 during ablutions
    Recessional: O Sacred Head

    No solo organ.
  • davido
    Posts: 1,030
    Organ Voluntaries: Valet will ich nicht geben - Kauffman & Guilmant
    Hosanna filio David - Pietro Cattaneo
    Meditation, Love Unknown - Francis Jackson
    BWV 727
    Hosanna filio David: ICEL
    Procession: All Glory Laud and Honor ST THEODULPH
    Psalmody: Source and Summit
    Ordinary: Jubilate Deo (incl. Pater noster)
    Motet: Popule meus - Victoria (Adult choir mass)
    Faithful Cross - Gregorian (Children’s choir mass)
    Hymn tunes: ST THEODULPH, LOVE UNKNOWN, WONDROUS LOVE, CRUCIFER, PASSION CHORALE
  • Liam
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  • canadashcanadash
    Posts: 1,516
    Liam, what an exquisite worship aid!
  • Jeffrey Quick
    Posts: 2,130
    St. Sebastian Akron OH, 1 PM TLM
    Mass XVII, Credo I
    Chant Proper and Palm business
    Offertory: O vos Omnes (Casciolini)
    Communion: Miserere (Allegri) (the verses we didn't do on Passion Sunday, lol!)
    Recessional: O sacred head surrounded
  • Liam
    Posts: 5,232
    Canadash

    Not my doing, but that of Richard J Clark. (I am merely a pewsitter these days.)
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  • rich_enough
    Posts: 1,054
    Sts. Cyril and Methodius Oratory - Bridgeport, CT (ICKSP)
    Hosanna Filio David - chant
    Pueri Hebraeorum portantes - Palestrina
    Pueri Hebraeorum vestimenta - Victoria
    Procession: Cum appropinquaret Dominus and other chants
    Proper chants of the Mass: Dominus ne longe
    Mass XVII
    Offertory: Villanueva – Christus factus est
    Communion 1: Victoria – Eram quasi Agnus
    Communion 2: Handl – In nomine Jesu
    during Last Gospel: Ave regina caelorum – simple chant
    Hymn: O Sacred Head Surrounded
  • St. Mary's Norwalk CT, Extraordinary Form

    Asperges, Morales
    Mass ordinary: Missa in Dominica Palmarum, M. Haydn
    Pueri hebraeorum I, Regnart
    Pueri hebraeorum II. Victoria
    Extra motet for distribution: Occurrunt turbae, Bernabei
    St. Matthew Passion: Victoria
    Offertory: Improperium, Palestrina
    Communion I: O Domine Jesu Christe, Guerrero
    Communion II: Vexilla Regis, Victoria

    Everything else from the Graduale Romanum.
  • m_r_taylor
    Posts: 337
    St. JP2 Shrine

    A cappella, SATB

    Weber Englished propers
    Missa Jubilate Deo in Latin, SATB harmonized by Lewis/Wanner
    Self-composed Psalm and Gospel Acclamation
    Offertory: Ingegneri - Tenebrae factae sunt
    Communion: Taylor - The Royal Banners
    Communion: Lemme - Te, Fons Salutis
    Hymns: All Glory, Laud and Honor, O Salutaris Hostia (ends with Exposition)
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  • Credo: recto tono, accompanied


    Why do y'all do the Credo recto tono?

    -pewsitter
  • GerardH
    Posts: 526
    Hosanna to the Son of David - Weelkes
    Pueri Hebraeorum antiphons with psalms - Graduale Romanum
    All glory, laud and honour - ST THEODULPH
    Psalm to Anglican chant
    Christus factus est - Sartori (misattr. Anerio)
    Crucifixus a 6 - Lotti
    Improperium exspectavit - Graduale Romanum
    Sanctus & Agnus - Mass XVII
    Pater, si non potest - Graduale Romanum
    O Jesus crucified - FORBES STREET
    O vos omnes - Gesualdo
    When I survey the wondrous cross - ROCKINGHAM
  • tomjaw
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    Palm Sunday 2024 (same as last year)
    Two sets of Male cantors for the Propers and one set of Lady Cantrix? for the Ordinary.

    Blessing of Palms (all Chant sung in full according to the G.R. 1924)
    Asperges mode 7
    ANT. Hosanna filio David.
    GRAD. In Monte Oliveti.
    SANTUS. XVIII
    ANT. Pueri Hebraeorum The two chant versions from the G.R. 1924
    ANT. Pueri Hebraeorum (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)
    ANT. Pueri Hebraeorum (Tomás Luis de Victoria)
    ANT. Pueri Hebraeorum (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)
    ANT. Pueri Hebraeorum (Tomás Luis de Victoria)
    ANT. Cum audisset
    ANT. Ante sex dies
    ANT. Occurrunt turbae.
    HYMN. Gloria Laus.
    RESP. Ingrediente.

    Mass
    INT. Domine ne longe.
    KYR. XVII first version
    GRAD. Tenuisti.
    TRACT. Deus deus. (alternated Cantors 1, choir, Cantors 2 etc.)
    PASSION. Victoria setting
    GOSPEL. Solemn ancient tone
    CREDO. I
    OFF. Improperium
    OFF. Hymn Crux fidelis compline hymn from 16th c. Salzinnes Antiphonal.
    SAN. XVII
    AGNUS. XVII
    COM. Magnum Salutis Gaudium ancient processional hymn for today.
    COM. Pater si, Chant setting alternated with the Isaac polyphonic setting, with psalm verses.
    BENE. XVII first version
    Domine Salvum fac (Tonus regalis)
    Marian Anthem. Ave Regina Caelorum, De la Rue.

    A big thank you to CPDL for providing the sheet music for the polyphony.
  • GerardH
    Posts: 526
    @tomjaw if you're looking for the plural of cantrix, it is 'cantrices', pronounced CAN-trə-seez
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  • trentonjconn
    Posts: 692
    Why do y'all do the Credo recto tono?


    We largely follow the lead of our cathedral, which sings it in this manner. Additionally, the ordinariate in the U.S. is due to have its own hymnal in the next year or two. It may or may not contain the same service music as that contained in the 1940 (our current hymnal), so I'm hesitant to teach a new setting to the congregation and then have it happen to not be present, or be present in a different form, in the new hymnal. It was not sung at all under my predecessor, and the recto tono solution was an easy way to have a sung creed without throwing the people for too much of a loop.

    The short answer is that I'm in a sort of holding pattern awaiting the new hymnal.
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  • JacobFlahertyJacobFlaherty
    Posts: 360
    Holy Family Catholic Church, St. Louis Park, Minnesota (N.O.)
    Hosanna Filio David chant
    Pueri Hebraeorum Portantes chant
    Pueri Hebraeorum Vestimenta chant
    All Glory, Laud, and Honor - ST. THEODULPH
    (Upon Entrance into the Sanctuary) Ingrediente Domino - composed by me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIDPQwoSEbA
    Responsorial Psalm - Sam Schmitt
    Praise and Honor (refrain set to the Orbis Factor Kyrie tune; verse written by me) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tJgW6tfPfs
    Offertory: Improperium - Gregorian Chant and O Vos Omnes - Gesualdo
    Sanctus: Mass XVIII
    Agnus Dei: Mass XVII
    Communion: Gregorian Chant, Tenebrae Factae Sunt - Johann Michael Haydn and Prayer to Jesus - George Oldroyd
    Recessional (Anthem!): God So Loved the World - John Stainer
  • St. Ann's, Hamilton Ontario

    All unaccompanied

    Entrance: All Glory Laud and Honour
    Palms: Hosanna Filio David, Pueris + psalmody (GR)
    Procession: Occurent Turbae, Christus Vincit, Gloria Laus
    GR Propers
    Missa Ferialis
    Credo 2
    Offertory: Ubi Caritas (the Triduum is celebrated according to the OF and I am uncertain if they sing this on Holy Thursday, so I included in an anticipatory spirit. Also to have something simple.)
    Communion: Popule Meus - Victoria
    Exit: Come Darkness
  • MatthewRoth
    Posts: 2,679
    @JacobFlaherty, Palm Sunday is a polyphony-free day here. But that’s great.
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  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
    Posts: 5,242
    I know it's too late for this year (things got in the way of progress here), but here is my ST THEODULPH setting, Bach harmonization + my descants. Have a blessed Holy Week and Easter.
    -- Charles
    Note: Newly uploaded, complete with text underlay ("All glory, laud, and honour").
    Giffen-All glory laud and honour-a.pdf
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    Giffen-All glory laud and honour-a.mp3
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    Thanked by 2tomjaw Polyfollia
  • Andrew_Malton
    Posts: 1,205
    St Mary’s Linwood (Hamilton Diocese)

    As in the Liber, with Mass XVII, and Credo I as usual.

    We made a procession outdoors -- finally a real Spring day! -- and so managed all the antiphons and the whole of Gloria Laus.

    We sang the tract with four alternating cantors (more than usual) but down to two near the end so that the other two could zip down to the vestry and vest for the Passion.

    We sang verses of Quis Sicut Te, O Jesu Christe during the offertory.

    We sang Abroad The Regal Banners Fly after the final blessing.
  • Marc Cerisier
    Posts: 558
    Co-Cathedral, Houston, Spanish Mass

    Opening Antiphon: Hosanna filio David
    During the Sprinkling: Pueri Hebraeorum
    Procession: Honor, Loor y Gloria (St. Theodulph)

    Responsorial Psalm: Salmo 21 - Cerisier (Co-Cathedral Psalter)
    Gospel Acclamation: Misa de la Inmaculada Concepción - Cerisier

    Offertory: Miserere Mei - Manuel de Sumaya (excerpt)

    Eucharistic Acclamations: Misa de la Inmaculada Concepción - Cerisier

    Communio: Pater si non potest (Graduale)
    Communion Motet: Vexilla Regis - Juan Gutiérrez de Padilla (excerpt)
    Communion: FyC3 #326 Himno Pascual (misleading name, but text is Philippians 2:5-11)

    Recessional: ¡Piedad, oh santo Dios, piedad! (Rockingham) (ended with last verse a cappella... a nice way to end this particular liturgy)

    Being my own pairing of the final hymn text and tune, the score is attached.
    ¡Piedad, oh santo Dios, piedad!.pdf
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  • Richard MixRichard Mix
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    We recessed in silence.

    Just before the 11:00 our 9:30 Priest clapped me on the back and said "Have a lovely…" My eyes widened and I expected "…crucifixion" but he continued with "…celebration."
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  • francis
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    From Hebdomadae 1935
    +++++++++++++
    Entrance All Glory Laud and Honor
    Asperges Mode iv (No Gloria Patri)
    Benedictio Palmarum: Hosanna filio David
    Pueri
    Ingrediente
    Procession Christus Vincit
    Gloria Laus (at front door)
    +++++++++++++
    Ordinary Mass xvii
    Propers (No Gloria Patri)
    Turba St. Matthew - Victoria
    Credo I
    Offertory: Jesu Dulcis Memoria Motet - Palestrina with chant verses
    Communion Motets Jesu Dulcis Memoria - Palestina (Gibb edition)
    Benedicamus Mass XVII
    Marian Antiphon Ave Regina Caelorum – simple
    Recessional: Ah Holy Jesus
  • For those of you who celebrate the extraordinary form and especially the pre-1955 Holy Week, I would be interested in hearing how you dealt with certain aspects of the day. I will mention my own solutions below.

    1. Is the Asperges without Gloria long enough? On a normal Sunday in Norwalk, we repeat the antiphon between the verse and the doxology, and the timing just works out for the ministers to go down the center aisle and back. During Passiontide, we sing polyphony so they aren't doing the ceremony in silence.

    2. What do you do with the Pueri antiphons? We have to distribute palms to over 300 faithful. The two antiphons are way too short to accompany this action. Even with polyphony, we sang two settings of the vestimenta one and an extra motet as well along the same theme.

    3. The Gloria Laus at the door. What is the best way for the two choirs (and the faithful outside) to be able to hear each other? We have a thick wooden door in a stone church and it tends to be rather noisy outside on a spring Sunday morning to begin with.

    4. After the recent legislative moves against the extraordinary form, it has seemed more important than ever to me that we do the whole tract, just in case at some future date we will not be allowed to use the older liturgical books at all. I spoke about this at the end of this talk: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0OG3t9p5DlBN1J9NWaYmoQ?si=5ed321ea5de145ef Are people generally doing the whole thing or the psalm tone version or some combination of the two?
  • Presentation of the Lord Catholic Church
    Montgomery, Texas
    The Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter

    Palm Sunday

    Prelude - Hosanna Filio David - Choral fugue, Jeanne Demessieux
    Hosanna Filio David, GR
    PSALM 118 Confitémini Dómino
    All Glory, Laud, and Honor, ST THEODULPH
    Lift Up Your Heads, Dalitz, with PSALM 24 Dómini est terra
    Ingrediente, GR
    Domine, ne longe, GR
    Deus, Deus Meus SPG
    Christus Factus Est GR
    Sung Passion
    Improperium - SPG
    Offertory Motet - Crux Fidelis, Bartolucci
    Sancus/Benedictus - Missa Seraphica, Francis Burgess
    Agnus Dei - Agnus Dei after Allegri, Ostrowski, with Agnus Dei XI
    Pater Si Non Potest, GR
    Communion Hymn - O Come and Mourne ST CROSS
    Communion Anthem - Miserere, Allegri
    Closing Hymn - Glory Be to Jesus, WEM IN LEIDENSTAGEN
    Postlude - Ach Herr, mich armen Sunder BuxWV 178 Dietrich Buxtehude
  • tomjaw
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    @Charles_Weaver
    1. It is just long enough for us, The Ad lib II is just a little too short, the Normal Asperges just right, and the Vidi too long. It does depend on the priest as some are faster than others.

    2. We start with the chant alternating, with just two cantors, when the choir has received we start the Victoria / Palestrina. We had 260 people, and two priests distributing palms, so we sang the chant versions with two repeats and the Victoria / Palestrina combination repeated once. Before we learnt the polyphony, we would sing the verses found in a more modern book!

    3. Fortunately the choir can hear the cantors inside the doors, but the rest of the procession streaming around the church block only hears the choir outside. I don't think we can improve on this... If only we had a window that could be open...

    4. We always sing the Tract in full, even on Lent 1. I timed the Mass years ago and proved that the Sermon and Notices take an awfully long time, priests can get quite embarrassed that the notices can take longer than the Canon! I note in comparison the full chants take very little time. I should add that we sing Polyphonic Introits, Graduals, Tracts, Alleluia, Credo... So everyone is used to the music perhaps taking a bit longer...
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  • smvanroodesmvanroode
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    St. Anthony’s cathedral in Breda, the Netherlands:

    Hosanna filio David + Psalm 118 (Graduale novum)
    Gloria laus (Graduale novum)
    Psalmus 21 (Graduale simplex)
    Christus factus est (Graduale novum)
    Credo III
    Te regomus, audi nos
    Parce Domine
    Sanctus from Missa XVII
    Mysterium fidei. Salvator mundi
    Pater noster + Quia tuum
    Agnus Dei from Missa XVII
    Pater si non potest + Psalm 116 (Graduale novum)
  • francis
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    @Charles_Weaver

    Here is what we did to compensate for issues you have mentioned above (this comes from our choir director who works with the pastor to achieve the best outcome):

    1. We have been singing the mode iv Asperges during Lent and Advent for the last 4 years.  We sing it solemnly and it is quite astounding.  The parish is now familiar with the tone and more and more join the singing.  It is short, especially without the Gloria Patri.  Sometimes, depending on the priest, it ends before the priest is finished, but only maybe 20 or so seconds (which can seem like an eternity to us musicians).  But I have learned to be patient with the silence and it does have an impact, especially after a mode iv chant.  Also, I always find it better to finish the music before the priest is done so as not to interrupt the flow of His prayer and perhaps provoking impatience on HIS part with a choir that just won't stop.  I have been reluctant to sing polyphonic Asperges (though I am super tempted to do so) simply because it would most likely cause the priest to wait and because it would take away one part of the Liturgy that the congregation can recognize and sing.

    2. This has been a development for us. This year I had the men go to the altar rail following the Sanctus to receive their palms. The ladies chanted the first Pueri antiphon, chanting Psalm 23 (tone 1.a2) and repeating the antiphon after each verse.  After they had completed 4 verses, the men were back in the loft and ready to sing. The ladies went to the rail to receive their palms while the men sang a TTBB arrangement of Palestrina's Pueri after which the men chanted the second Pueri Antiphon continuing the verses of Psalm 23 from where the ladies had left off.  This continued until the distribution was complete.  The ladies remained in the Nave after receiving their palms and the men descended the loft to prepare for the procession.  This worked very well as we could end the singing naturally with the antiphon timed with the final distribution.

    3. We have the exact same problem.  Next year I am going to use six men inside instead of only 4.

    4. I listened to your talk.  Thank you for your insights.  For this issue I look to the Pastor and support his judgment of what is best given that there are other considerations than the one you raise, namely meeting the congregation where they are (families with young kids, not mature in the TLM).  We sing mode 2 Tracts often during Lent so the tone has become familiar to the congregation. This year, for Palm Sunday, I arranged the Tract so that we chanted vs. 1 and 14 so the congregation would recognize the tone. Vs. 2 through 13 we alternated psalm tone and a falso bordone. After the asterisk in v.14 the ladies joined and the altos and basses sang an organum that was quite stunning.  This was a good solution for our parish.

    (files attached... feel free to utilize in your parish)
    Dominica in ramis Palmarum - Tractus.pdf
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    Palm Sunday - Pueri Hebraeorum, Domina est terra, Pueri hebraeorum.pdf
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  • NihilNominisNihilNominis
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    The Cincinnati Oratory | Old St. Mary's Church

    ==> Listen in to a bit!

    Prelude hymn: All Glory, Laud, and Honor (the rhythmic version - try it, you'll love it)
    Processional chants
    Ingrediente, Schubert
    Full I,O,C; Abreges G, Fauxbourdon T
    Mass XVII, Credo I
    Crucifixus, Lotti
    Tenebrae factae sunt, Ingegneri
    Stabat mater dolorosa, Plainchant (sequence melody)
    O Sacred Head Surrounded (Bach setting)

  • MatthewRoth
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    @francis same, regarding the Asperges. And I did my own (probably in need of correction) harmonization because I was not really thrilled with what was out there. It didn’t fall apart at all this year.
  • @francis

    I found this simple setting by Franz Schopf that I'm enamored with, and plan to do a couple times this year, possibly with the regular monophonic verses. It would exclude the congregation but I don't think it would leave the priest twiddling his thumbs, at least. It could also be sung for the repeat only.

    https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Asperges_me_(Franz_Sch%C3%B6pf)

    The way I'm made I would be happy to sing the mode 7 Asperges every Sunday for the rest of my life (excluding Eastertide ofc). I try to keep in mind that not everyone (and in particular not all of my choir members) are the same way.
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  • francis
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    @Chant_Supremacist

    That is an interesting arr.

    ... I think we are doing mode iv because it has more of a melancholy tone fitting for the week... but that's just a guess on my part.
  • MatthewRoth
    Posts: 2,679
    The ICRSP does, at the seminary, the simpler mode 7 in Advent, the mode IV in Lent. Many of their apostolates switch this way. I like that a lot.
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  • PaxTecum
    Posts: 325
    Novus Ordo

    Hosanna filio David (Victoria)
    Gloria, laus, et honor tibi sit - chant
    Ingrediente Domino - chant
    Resp. Psalm - Schmitt
    Laus Tibi Christe - chant w/ polyphonic ending
    Passion - recited
    Credo - recited
    Offertory - chant proper
    Sanctus & Agnus from Missa XVII
    Mysterium fidei. Mortem tuam
    Communion - chant proper with verses
    Communion Motet - O Jesu Christe (Mantua)
    Ave Regina Caelorum (simple)
    Hymn - O Sacred Head Surrounded
  • AnimaVocis
    Posts: 169
    St. Mary's Sleepy Eye, MN (OF)
    Simple English Propers
    St. Theodulph
    R&A
    When I Survey (Hamburg)
    O Bone Jesu (Ingegneri)
    Jubilate Deo Chants
    O Come and Mourn (Dykes)
    Were You There (No I wasn't....)
    O Sacred Head
    Jesus, Remember Me (Taize)


    Diocese of New Ulm Latin Mass (1962)
    Procession Chants
    Full Propers (I,G,T,C)
    Missa XVII
    Ingrediente (F. Schubert)
    Improperium (F.X. Witt)
    Mulier, Mulier (J.J. Richardson)
  • ronkrisman
    Posts: 1,396
    Were You There (No I wasn't....)

    Well, since we hold that the sacred liturgy is a re-presentation of the saving works of God (the mirabilia Dei), then we are/were there -- by anamnesis.
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  • AnimaVocis
    Posts: 169
    Well, of course!

    It was meant more in a tongue-in-cheek and sarcastic tone than in any sense of seriousness.

    Next time, Ill be sure to include a little face... Perhaps even with a tongue sticking out...

    =P
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  • CharlesSA
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    @Charles_Weaver

    We did pre-55. The chapel was pretty small, however, in a remote location outside a small (7500) town, so there weren't tons of people in the congregation. Keeping that in mind:

    1. The usual Mode 7 Asperges without the Gloria was enough.

    2. We stuck with the 2 Pueri antiphons. I lost count...haha but we ended up singing each of them maybe 5 or 6 times. If we had had the capability and/or rehearsal time, I would have had sung one or two polyphonic versions to reduce the repetition. I also thought about just doing the psalm verses that the 55 reforms added in, but decided against it (for no particular reason).

    3. It was a very windy day here, so the choir outside could only barely hear, so I was told. If it had been necessary, I would have either tried to barely crack the door or, since there was a window (not able to be opened), if it came to that I would have signaled when we were done with each verse.

    4. Alas, the Tract was only Psalm-toned. Out of my control, as my schola did not sing it and my schola was really just a visitor/helping schola to a convent of nuns doing the pre-55 alone for the first time. The reason given to me was that the priest is older (75), arthritic, and also doing pre-55 for the first time, and the nuns did not want to prolong the Mass for him. They would like to sing it in full in the future. I can myself go on a long lecture as to why these longer Tracts (and Graduals and Alleluias, in the case of my usual FSSP parish) should *never* be psalm-toned except in case of true lack of ability or some other serious reason, because the whole character and point of the chant is absolutely lost.
  • MatthewRoth
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    We have had some external pressure (external to the schola) to simplify the tract and while this year we did not add additional verses in chant, except for freak occurrences that become serious reasons (like either last year or the year before, when someone important to our group had laryngitis on Palm Sunday) we refuse to do less of the full chant. They will take that as an opportunity to make us do less on other days even when tracts are not as daunting.

    Before 2020 or so, we used to do full propers only once a month. So even the Haec dies got that treatment apparently. Which, gross. And a previous priest found the melismatic propers boring (or thought that the people thought so at least). Alas. In any case we mostly have our pastor’s support and I am happy.
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  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
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    Sacred Heart, Evansville

    ENTRANCE HYMN: Hosanna Filio David (sung by the Youth Choir)

    DISTRIBUTION OF PALMS:
    Pueri Hebraeorum Portantes, chant & Palestrina (from Sir Richard Terry's Holy Week Book)
    Pueri Hebraeorum Vestimenta, chant

    PROCESSION:
    Omnes Collaudant I with Psalm 147
    Gloria, Laus et Honor
    Cum Angelis et Pueris
    Turba Multa
    Ingrediente

    MASS PROPERS: Gregorian (Gradual/Tract psalm-toned)
    MASS ORDINARY: XVII A, except Sanctus/Benedictus from Schubert's "Palm Sunday Music"
    PASSION: Chant
    OFFERTORY: Occurrunt Turbae
    COMMUNION: Michael Haydn, In Monte Oliveti
    CLOSING HYMN: All Glory, Laud and Honor
    Thanked by 2tomjaw CHGiffen
  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
    Posts: 5,242
    For some reason, the score and soundfile for my setting, above, of ST THEODULPH either didn't upload or it disappeared. I've just uploaded it again, complete with text underlay ("All glory, laud, and honour").
  • rvisser
    Posts: 58
    Queen of Peace, Cloquet, MN (NO)

    Palm Sunday
    Choir - 25 middle school students
    Hosanna chant (English)
    Procession: All Glory, Laud, and Honor (a cappella during procession from the gym to the church)
    Psalm: Ignatius Pew Missal
    Gospel Acclamation: Orbis Factor melody
    Offertory: When I Survey the Wondrous Cross (HAMBURG); Adoramus te Christe (Dubois)
    Ordinary: Mass XVIII, ICEL We Proclaim
    Communion: Pater si no potest (chant); At the Cross Her Station Keeping; O Sacred Head; Ave Regina Caelorum (chant)
    Recessional: silence
    Thanked by 2tomjaw CHGiffen
  • rich_enough
    Posts: 1,054
    @Charles_Weaver

    1. We sing additional verses of the Miserere to the same psalm tone (see attached).

    2. Like you, we sang polyphonic settings, repeating and alternating them with the chant as needed (chant - polyphony - chant - polyphony, etc.)

    3. For the Gloria laus we prop the door open a little so that the voices inside have a better chance of being heard outside. (We have a relatively small crowd but the church is right on a city street and across the street from a busy northeast corridor trains.)

    4. We sing the whole thing. It is fitting that the Tract be as along as it is in preparation for the (long) Passion. With regard to the length of the Tract here, something from St. Josemaría Escrivá comes to mind: 'The Mass is long', you say, and I add: 'Because your love is short.'
    Asperges Me - mode 4 - with extra verses.pdf
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