Camil Van Hulse
  • VocesCapituli
    Posts: 139
    Hey friends, I am looking for vocal music (his masses!) by Camil Van Hulse, a Belgian composer who moved to Tucson. Does anyone have an idea how I could get a hold of his music?
    Thanks,
    Dirk
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  • RoborgelmeisterRoborgelmeister
    Posts: 307
    This discussion pretty much sums it up...
    https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/3671/looking-for-information-about-camil-van-hulse/p1
    Ebay and Interlibrary loan.
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  • VocesCapituli
    Posts: 139
    thank you very much but that doesn't help me much. Nothing can be found on Ebay and as a Fleming, living in Flanders, I can't use interlibrary loan. Any suggestions?
  • Diapason84
    Posts: 140
    One of his publishers in the USA, World Library Publications, has since merged with another publisher, GIA. My guess is all his music is permanently out of print. You might try contacting their customer service and asking if they have any suggestions.
  • VocesCapituli
    Posts: 139
    Thanks, just tried this, let's hope!
  • VocesCapituli
    Posts: 139
    I contacted Gia Publications, JWPepper, Hal Leonard, ... searched on Amazon, ... all with no luck. Apparently Camil Van Hulse's masses are no longer available. Hence my question to conductors, choirs, organists, ... to look in their repertoire anyway to see if they have anything. Other suggestions on where to look are still welcome.
    Regards,
    Dirk
  • Diapason84
    Posts: 140
    Are you referring only to his settings in Latin?
  • VocesCapituli
    Posts: 139
    nope, I would love to see his work in english as well. I have ' Behold, the arm of the Lord'.
  • Felicia
    Posts: 143
    Wow. A well-regarded composer has been deceased for less than fifty years, and already his works are as scarce as the proverbial hen's teeth. I suspect most composers of Catholic church music from that era (just before Vatican II) have suffered the same fate. It would be a grand project to re-publish some of the best works. The problem is, most of these compositions are still under copyright in the U.S.
  • Jeffrey Quick
    Posts: 2,193
    A well-regarded composer has been deceased for less than fifty years, and already his works are as scarce as the proverbial hen's teeth. I suspect most composers of Catholic church music from that era (just before Vatican II) have suffered the same fate.

    Catholics in general have no idea of even the big outlines of Catholic music history. "There was chant, and then, oh, Palestrina, and then who... Marty Haugen maybe". A lot of the easier music of the immediate preconciliar period was unmemorable in the ways that Yon or RoSewig were memorable. Which is not to say that there wasn't decent music being written in the US (though much more in Europe). But the really good stuff tended to be harder, so not done as much. The copyright issue wouldn't matter so much had so much of that music (and the music for the transitional Mass) not hit the dumpster. Even the guys who successfully made the transition (Carroll Thomas Andrews) are really only known for their NO music.

    People ripe for reappraisal (besides Van Hulse): Joseph Wilcox Jenkins, Russell Woollen, Leopold Syre maybe. But given that we haven't really figured out Civil War to WWII yet (which doesn't have the copyright problem) it might be good to do that first and establish some hermeneutic of continuity.
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  • VocesCapituli
    Posts: 139
    boosting this ... please check if you have any music by him
  • RoborgelmeisterRoborgelmeister
    Posts: 307
    I just remembered that the Leupold Foundation is a great source for used organ music.

    https://theleupoldfoundation.org/product/hulse-camil-v-solemn-prelude-for-a-festal-day/
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  • Jeffrey Quick
    Posts: 2,193
    I just received the Ecco Sacerdos for SATB and organ (Glen Rock NJ: J. Fischer & Bro, 1945) and can scan in the next several days.

    Have you dealt with https://www.abebooks.com/? They're a middleman for various antiquarian book dealers in Europe and the US, and I saw various organ things there. I generally don't deal with the European dealers listed there, because shipping to the US can often amount to more than the item is worth to me, but as a European, you wouldn't have that problem. The prices from the German and UK dealers don't seem unreasonable.
  • VocesCapituli
    Posts: 139
    that would be great Jeffrey. And yes, I bought 3 works of Camil at abebooks.
  • Paul F. Ford
    Posts: 876
    I just scanned this for you, found in a donation to our seminary by a deceased priest.
    Camil van Hulse.pdf
    10M
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