Assumption at Your Parish or Cathedral -
  • This solemnity was celebrated at Walsingham Cathedral this evening with a solemn pontifical mass. This is par for the course on every solemnity (not necessarily pontifical, but certainly solemn high) at the Ordinariate's cathedral church.

    The Most Rev. Steven J. Lopes - Bishop, the Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter
    The Very Rev. Charles Hough IV - Rector, the Cathedral of Our Lady of Walsingham
    The Rev. Mr. James Barnett - Deacon
    Edmund Murray, Choirmaster and Organist

    Here is the music for this evening's Assumption mass -

    (As is customary at Walsingham on all solemnities all the readings were sung by vested lectors - who will shortly be 'instituted'.)

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    Organ Voluntary - on the Introit, Gaudeamus - - - Improvisation

    At the Procession - Hymn: 'In Splendour Arrayed' - - - Laudate Dominum
    The Introit - Gaudeamus - - - Mode I (Palmer-Burgess)

    Kyrie - Missa Dixit Maria - - - Hans Leo Hassler
    Gloria - Missa Dixit Maria - - - Hans Leo Hassler

    Psalm XLV - Eructavit cor meum - - - Chant, Edward John Hopkins

    Alleluya and Verse - Assumpta est - - - Tone VI (AUG)

    The Nicene Creed - - - Recto tono, with organ embellishments

    The Prayers of the Faithful - - - Byzantine Chant

    The Offertory Antiphon - Assumpta est - - - Mode VIII (Palmer-Burgess)
    Anthem at the Offertory - Magnificat, in E-Major - - - Herbert Murill

    Sanctus - Missa Dixit Maria - - - Hans Leo Hassler

    Agnus Dei - Missa Dixit Maria - - - Hans Leo Hassler

    The Communion Antiphon - Beatam me dicent - - - Mode VI (Palmer-Burgess)
    Anthem at the Communion - Ave Maria - - - Francisco Guerrero
    Hymn at the Ablutions - 'Hail, Our Queen and Mother Blest!' - - - Tempus adest floridum

    At the Dismissal - Hymn: 'Hail, Holy Queen, Enthroned Above' - - - Salve Regina Coelitum

    Organ Voluntary - Fuga sopra il Magnificat - - - J.S. Bach

    (As always, not a single non-ritual word was uttered at any point by anyone at all. Our people, given service folders, perform their parts with a sure and unison voice, with spontaneous and worshipful enthusiasm.)
  • St. Mary's, North Vernon. Fr. Byrd officiating.

    Second Vespers of the Assumption
    Victoria, Domine ad Adjuvandum
    Gregorian psalms, antiphons, and hymn
    Magnificat w/fauxbordon verses by Viadana

    Mass IX, Credo I
    Gregorian propers
    Offertory motet - Schubert, Salve Regina
    Communion motet - Aichinger, Assumpta Est Maria

    Benediction w/chanted rosary and hymns (was going to be procession as well but it's too darn hot around here)
    Prayers in Reparation for the Oklahoma Black Mass
    4-pt Adoremus in Aeternum

    We started at 6:45. I'm just now getting home. We were hoping for a crowd of about thirty - we got 85. This is the first time in fifty years something of this sort has been done at St. Mary's, said Father. It's good to know things are looking up.
  • MatthewRoth
    Posts: 1,224
    OK, Fr. Byrd did not officiate Vespers. LOL. I was hebdom (no ceremonies) & totally goofed the intonation for the “Deus in adjutorium” & goofed the collects, though I managed the Ave Maris Stella. Fr. Pasley taught me the collects in his breakout, so I need to calm down & breathe to get the correct tone in my head…& not all of them! And you may have noticed we cheated & used 8G for the chanted Magnificat verses. But it was incredible. Stimson is right regarding turnout. I was thrilled.

    Also, I meant to say thanks for using the Gallican Gloria Patri & sorry, the epistle was booming. Did it sound unmusical (& unprayerful?) as a result?

    The church is a beautiful brick country church with a wooden interior. This is the time I have been in one, & I have yet to learn that chant carries a long way in a soft voice. God bless German immigrants. There is very little padding in the pews. Please pray for the restoration of the high altar.
  • The epistle sounded just fine to me. You haven't gotten into the bad habit of a "Stained-glass voice" just yet, Roth.
    Thanked by 1Incardination
  • CharlesW
    Posts: 10,008
    I can tell you what happened for Assumption. Nothing, absolutely nothing other than the standard morning mass. You know those Latins and obligations. No obligation, no Holy Day mass. I did slip in a couple of Ave Marias at Sunday masses. One was sung, and the other was a Flor Peeters organ setting based on chant. Best I could do this year.
    Thanked by 1JulieColl
  • St. Mary of the Assumption, Pine Bluff, Wisc. — 7:00 PM Solemn High Mass & Benediction

    Priest: Fr. Zuhlsdorf
    Deacon: Fr. Ihm (diocesan vocations director)
    Subdeacon: P. Lee (diocesan seminarian)

    In choro: L. Powers, M. Wanta (diocesan seminarians)

    Proper: Gregorian, Missa "Signum Magnum"
    Ordinary: Missa IX "Cum iubilo", Credo III
    Hymn at Offertory: Ave maris stella (chant, mode I)
    Hymn at Communion: Salve Mater misericordiae (chant, mode V)
    Marian Antiphon after the Last Gospel: Salve Regina, simple tone (chant, mode V)

    Hymn at Exposition: O Salutaris Hostia (DUGUET)
    Hymn at Adoration: Tantum ergo (ST. THOMAS [WADE])
    Hymn after Reposition: “Holy God, We Praise Thy Name” (GROSSER GOTT)

    A schola of six men sang the Proper and led the Ordinary. At 41, I was the oldest member of the schola by about five years. The visiting organist is an organ-performance major entering his sophomore year.

    About 120–140 in attendance.
  • JulieCollJulieColl
    Posts: 2,437
    St. Mary's, Roslyn Harbor

    Opening: Be Joyful, Mary, Heavenly Queen
    Full Gregorian propers
    Mass IX, Missa cum jubilo
    Offertory Motet: Salve Regina (Lotti)
    Communion Motet: Ave Verum Corpus (Byrd)
    Antiphon: Salve Regina (Solemn Tone)
    Closing: Hail Holy Queen

    Nice, enthusiastic crowd of about 75. SO happy I could finally sing the Assumption propers and my favorite Alleluia of all time. I've been listening to the Fontgambault CD for years and am grateful for the opportunity to sing these chants.

    P.S. Lotti's Salve Regina is tremendous. http://www1.cpdl.org/wiki/images/1/12/Salve_Regina_Lotti.pdf
  • matthewjmatthewj
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    Missa Lecta
  • Steve CollinsSteve Collins
    Posts: 1,003
    Stella Maris, Sullivan's Island

    We just had our regular 6:30PM English Mass followed by our Monday evening Novena to Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal.

    But we did include an EF Low Mass at 11:00AM - with just a week's notice - and had 100+ in the congregation!

    Entrance Hymn: "Sea Star, We Acclaim Thee", tune: St. Martin
    (Ave Maris Stella translation)
    Offertory Hymn: "Today is Mary Taken Up", tune: Martyrdom
    (from Aristotle Esquerra's "Common-Meter Offertories", adjusted for Tudor-bethan pronouns)
    Communion: "Beatam me dicent", chanted by me with NOH accompaniment
    Communion Hymn: "Ave Maria", by Arcadelt
    Recessional Hymn: "Hail, Queen of Heaven", tune: Stella
    (skipping the "mourners" verses - this is sort of the parish anthem)

  • The mass never happened due to shortage of priests (EF) but nonetheless here is what we were supposed to sing.

    Full Gregorian Propers, Mass IX (Cum Jubilo), Credo III
    Ave Maria (Victoria) at Communion
    Thanked by 1JulieColl
  • Jeffrey Quick
    Posts: 1,498
    EF Mass, St. Sebastian,Akron OH 5PM

    Pro/Re-cessional: O Holy Queen, enthroned above
    Mass IX, Credo 3
    Gregorian Propers
    Offertory: Ave Maris Stella (Perosi) in alternatim
    Communion: Ave Maria ("Arcadelt"/Montani)
  • kevinfkevinf
    Posts: 1,076
    I did 2 for Assumption:

    OF St. Luke Church Palm Springs,FLA.

    Propers from Fr Weber's Proper of the Mass (Introit,offertory and communion)
    Mass 8
    at Communion: after the proper
    Ave Maria (chant) and organ improvisation
    Hymn; Immaculate Mary

    EF Holy Spirit Church Lantana FLA

    Chanted propers from the Gradual
    Signum Magnum (introit). I wished for Gaudeamus but I was not in charge...
    Mass 8
    Gradual: Audi Filia
    Alleluia Assumpta Est
    Offertory: inimicitias
    Communion: Beatam me dicent with Magnificat verses
    Salve Regina

    In addition I improvised on the chants at the Introit at the entree, at the offertory and the communion. Okay...I wept during the Salve Regina because I had not sung it with a schola in a long time.

    Big groups for both masses. Exciting....

    Things are happening in south Florida.
    Thanked by 2SarahJ JulieColl
  • SarahJ
    Posts: 51
    We celebrated Assumption in the Extraordinary Form.
    Priere a Notre-Dame by Boellman for prelude.
    Missa cum jubilo, Credo III, Propers from the GR.
    Postlude was Dupre's Salve Regina and then improvised my way into Joy of All Sinners.
  • Simply curious -
    We hear from our Ordinariate, English NO, Latin NO, and EF colleagues about their goings on, but nary a word (excepting from CharlesW) from any of our Eastern Rite fellows. Of course, I think that the Eastern rites do not allow for the variety and choice of musics that we in the west are blessed with - still, they have rich musical traditions and liturgical matters which would, I'm sure, be welcome and enriching contributions here.
  • CharlesW
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    The chants vary from one eastern church to another, but tend to be rather fixed within a specific church and don't vary much. It is the text that varies. We don't celebrate the Assumption, since that is a Latin church feast. We celebrate the Dormition, the falling asleep of the Mother of God. Some say she died and was resurrected on the third day and taken into heaven. Others think she was "assumed" into heaven, closer to the Latin beliefs. We just all know she is in heaven, period. There is a two week fast, the Dormition Fast, before August 15th. If I remember correctly, I don't believe this event was celebrated in any church before the 5th or 6th century. The concept of Holy Days varies from the Latin church. There is no obligation under pain of sin, but Divine Liturgy can be attended, or Vespers the evening before. My personal take is that the Russians have the best music.
  • My understanding of the eastern liturgies is that everything is as 'propers' are to the western rites - which is to say that for every mass there are prescribed chants and never (or rarely) does choice as to what to sing exist - though in some cases there is a choice as to what setting one will use - is this correct?
  • CharlesW
    Posts: 10,008
    Yes. Certain "tones" are assigned to particular days and each tone has its own set of melodies. The text is sung to the designated tones. In our branch of the church a communion hymn can be sung, if desired. They tend to be Slavonic in origin.
  • rogue63
    Posts: 405
    My boss is a Latin-rite priest, but has faculties from the Archeparchy of Pittsburgh. He offered the Divine Liturgy on Dormition last year, and I served as cantor. We sang "O Pure Virgin" as an entrance hymn, and then all the appointed texts (troparia/kontakia/prokeimenaia, etc.) for the feats. I part company with CharlesW to say the Carpatho-Rusyns have the best music! Russians have more choral stuff, for sure, but the congregational music from the C-R tradition is quite strong. There's quite a bit less room for selecting which and what setting pairs with this and that reading in the Divine Liturgy. It's quite a bit more organic, in the sense of growing up with a people and a language. Anyway, that was last year. This year, we had an OF Mass, and this lovely psalm was sung:

    https://youtu.be/5q3lc7WGlEM
  • CharlesW
    Posts: 10,008
    Give me three of those Russian basses and you will see a happy soul. LOL.
  • JahazaJahaza
    Posts: 464
    I sing tenor (and occasionally sub as choir director) at St. Michael's Russian Catholic Chapel in New York City. We had liturgy for Dormition. As has been said above, the music changes according to the service, but it's pretty unusual for us to change the settings we use. For the propers, we use mostly what is commonly referred to as L'vov-Bakhmetev Obikhod, though that's not an entirely accurate description of it, in the settings common in the OCA or local versions of the same. The ordinary music is more mixed, but again mostly drawn from OCA sources. Changing the setting of something for a particular service does happen occasionally, but is pretty rare. I'd love to do it more often, but we don't have a lot of singers or a lot of rehearsal time, so sticking to patterns people know (even if the text is different) is how we get by.

    If you're ever in New York City and read music half-way decently, you're welcome to come "sit in" (except we stand) with us at Vespers on Fridays at 6 PM or at Liturgy on Sundays at 11AM. We're at 266 Mulberry Street, just north of Old St. Patrick's Cathedral.

  • stulte
    Posts: 243
    We had a Low Mass at around noon and a Missa Cantata in the evening. The full Gregorian Propers were sung and the Ordinary was Palestrina's Missa Aeterna Christi Munera plus some motets.
  • St. Mary, Help of Christians, Sleepy Eye, MN
    Assumption/53rd Anniversary of the Church's Consecration


    7:15 a.m. Mass
    Prelude: Improvisation on "On this Day, O Beautiful Mother"
    Introit: Gaudeamus (SEP)
    Kyrie: Simplex
    Gloria: English, ICEL
    Psalm: Alstott
    G.A.: H. Hughes in F
    Offertory Hymn: Hail, Holy Queen
    Mass Parts: ICEL Chants
    Communion Antiphon: Beatam Me Dicent, (SEP)
    Recessional: Organ Improvisation

    6:30 p.m. Mass at the High Altar
    Prelude: Improvisation on "Gaudeamus" & "Alleluia, Assumpta Est"
    Introit: Gaudeamus (SEP)
    Kyrie: Simplex
    Gloria: Missa VIII, de angelis
    Psalm: Alstott
    G.A.: Alstott
    Offertory: Ave Maria, simple Latin chant
    Mass Parts: Missa Jubilate Deo
    Communion Antiphon: Beatam Me Dicent, (SEP)
    Communion Hymn: Hail, Holy Queen
    Recessional: Claude Gervaise, Bransle de Champagne
    Postlude: Organ Improvisation
    Thanked by 1stulte
  • OF

    Prelude: Hail Is She Ascends So High
    Introit: A Woman Clothed With the Sun (Psallite)
    Ordinary: Missa IX
    psalm: Chabanel/Ostrowski
    Offertory: Immaculate Mary
    Communion Antiphon: Motyka
    Hymn After Mass: Hail Holy Queen
  • Richard MixRichard Mix
    Posts: 1,847
    I can't find the 2017 or 2018 threads (2012 here) but here's what happened tonight at St. David's:

    Bilingual Mass 6:30 Aug. 15 2019
    St. David of Wales, Richmond CA

    Improvisation sur Gaudeamus (Henri Nibelle)
    Immaculate Mary alternating with Del cielo ha bajado LOURDES AVE (with upbeat!)
    Missa de angelis (no Agnus because Fr. had another 7:30 g__ to get to.)
    Ps./Salmo 45
    3-fold Alleluia, mode 1
    Ave Maria virgo serena (Josquin)
    Beatam me dicent
    O most virtuous/ Oh santisima O DU FRÖLlCHE
    Ave maris stella (Guilmant)

    Two years (Aug. 15 2020 is a Saturday, pre-empted by Anticipatory Mass) to get ready for next time!
  • vansensei
    Posts: 103
    8 am High Mass

    Full Gregorian propers
    Mass IX
    Ave Maria (Arcadelt)
    O Santissima
    O Queen of the Holy Rosary

    Our lone organist was not there, so it was all a cappella. It actually worked very well.
  • SalieriSalieri
    Posts: 2,419
    2019
    Our Lady of Czestochowa, Turners Falls, MA

    Aug. 14th: Vigil Mass, 5:30 p.m. (Perpetual Wed. Novena to St. Jude) -- OF Sung Mass, English with Latin Ordinary; Gloria recited (English), sadly

    Mass XVIII (Deus genitor alme)* + Paternoster
    Introit: Glorious things (Gloria dicta sunt) -- Fr. Weber
    Processional Hymn: Serdeczna Matko
    Alleluia: mode II melismatic -- Parish Book of Chant
    Offertory: Blessed are you (Beata es, Virgo Maria) -- Fr. Weber
    Hymn: St Jude Novena Hymn
    Communion:Blessed is the womb (Beata viscera) -- Fr. Weber
    Hymn: Badzze pozdrowiona
    Recessional: Salve Regina -- tonus simplex
    Postlude: Prelude and Fugue in C Major -- Bach

    * Following Older Practice (mutual enrichment?): Mass XVIII: For Ferias of Advent & Lent; as well as Vigils, Rogation, and Ember Days.
    ---
    Aug. 15th: Mass of the Day, 8:00 a.m. -- OF, English (short Mass for people to get to work on time), Kyrie & Gloria recited

    Introit-Prelude: A great sign appeared (Signum Magnum) -- Fr. Weber
    Processional Hymn: Serdecna Matko
    Alleluia: mode vi triple-Alleluia
    Offertory: Mary has been taken up (Assumpta est Maria) -- Fr. Weber
    Hymn: Hail, Holy Queen Enthroned Above
    Sanctus: More Ambrosiano, Kyriale Simplex
    Agnus: Ad libitum II, Kyriale Romanum
    Communion: All generations (Beata me dicent) -- Fr. Weber.
    Hymn: Badzze Pozdrowiona
    Recessional: Salve Regina -- tonus simplex
    Postlude: Improvisation on Salve Regina
    ---
    Aug. 15th: Holy Hour, 4:30 p.m.; Mass of the Day, 5:30 p.m. -- OF High Mass,
    English with Latin Ordinary and Roman Canon

    Mass VIII (de Angelis) + Agnus, Mass of St. Teresa, Willan + Paternoster
    Benediction: Tantum Ergo
    Reposition: Niechaj bedzie pochwalony
    Introit: Rejoice we all (Gaudeamus) -- Palmer-Burgess
    Alleluia: mode II melismatic -- Parish Book of Chant
    Offertory: Mary has been taken up (Assumpta est Maria) -- Fr. Weber
    Hymn: Hail, Holy Queen Enthroned Above
    Communion: All generations (Beata me dicent) -- Fr. Weber
    Chant: Tota pulchra es -- Cantus Mariales
    Hymn: Badzze Pozdrowiona
    Recessional: Salve Regina -- tonus simplex
    Postlude: Praeludium in F Major -- Buxtehude
  • kevinfkevinf
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    Gregorian Propers (Gaudeamus instead of Signum Magnum)
    Missa cum jubilo
    At communion: Ave Maria Bach/Gounod
    Tournemire: l'Orgue Mystique no. 35 (Assumptione) Mvmts. 1,2,3
    Thanked by 1tomjaw
  • matthewjmatthewj
    Posts: 2,601
    Improvisation on Gaudeamus
    Gaudeamus (GR) And Antiphon (LCG)
    Kyrie XVI
    ICEL Gloria
    Psalm and Alleluia (LCM)
    Hail Holy Queen
    Sanctus/Agnus Dei XVIII
    Communion (LCM)
    Ave Maria (Schubert)
    Immaculate Mary
    Improvisation on LOURDES HYMN
    Thanked by 1tomjaw
  • LenaH
    Posts: 31

    Holy Family--Gas City, IN

    Gregorian Propers
    Missa cum jubilo
    Processional-Who is She Ascends So High?
    Offertory-Inviolata (chant)
    Communion-Ave Maria (Mauro-Cottone)
    Recessional-Hail Holy Queen

    Stimson-you would be proud!
    Thanked by 1StimsonInRehab
  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
    Posts: 1,557
    Always was, always will be, Lena!

    Ours did Schubert's Salve Regina, Biebl's Ave Maria, and Palestrina's Missa Brevis, although we had to skip Agnus Dei because A) Our director thought otherwise it would "be too long" (sigh) and B) The soprani didn't want to learn it (double sigh) - don't let complacency hold you back, folks!

    Thanked by 1LenaH
  • Don9of11Don9of11
    Posts: 206
    St. Paul - Akron, Oh

    Prelude: Ave Maria - Schubert
    Ent. Hymn: Sing of Mary
    Ent. Antiphon: Rev. 12:1 - Ignatius Pew Missal (IPM)
    Resp. Psalm: Psalm 45:10, 11, 12, 16 (IPM)
    Gosp. Alleluia: a tune and verse I didn't recognize.
    Offertory: Salve Regina - Gather #880
    Comm: Magnifcat - Gather #101
    Comm. Reflection: Hail Mary Gentle Woman - Gather #889
    Recessional: Hail, Holy Queen Enthroned Above - Gather #879

    Mass setting was St. Francis Cabrini ( I hope I spelled it right)
  • Solemn high Mass
    Processional: Sounds of Joy (St Basil hymnal on Concordi Laetitia)
    Kyriale:: Cum Jubilo, sung antiphonally with schola / tutti
    Credo: III, sung ditto
    Offertory- Ave, Vera Virginitas (des Pres)
    Communion - Magnificat (Dandrieu)
    Organist's arrangement of solemn tone Salve Regina
    Recessional - Buxtehude? will need to ask
  • GambaGamba
    Posts: 177
    St. Mary, Auburn, NY
    Solemn Mass, OF
    Principal Celebrant: The Most Reverend Salvatore R. Matano, Bishop of Rochester

    Prelude: P&F in G, BWV 541
    Introit: Signum Magnum
    Hymn: Behold in heaven, clothed with the Sun (Tietze)
    Kyrie, Gloria, Sanctus, Agnus: Mass IX
    Psalm: Refrain from LCM, verses to Gregorian tone 7
    Alleluia: Gregorian
    Sung Gospel
    Creed III, Et incarnatus: Juan Muñoz
    Offertory: Assumpta est Maria (chant)
    Offertory 2: Assumpta est Maria à5, Georg Prenner
    Offertory 3: Ave Maris Stella (Georg Stadlmayr, alternating schola/choir)
    Communion 1: Beatam me dicent (chant) + Magnificat in English to tone 6
    Communion 2: Ave Maria, virgo serena, Josquin des Prez
    After Communion: Litany of Loreto, as in LU p. 1857
    Hymn: Hail, holy Queen
    Exit: Festival Toccata, Percy Fletcher

    Worship aid attached.
    The ordinary and litany were sung alternating schola/people, with the schola in the sanctuary accompanied by our 1872 Garret House organ, and the people led by the choir, accompanied by our 1890 Carl Barckhoff organ in the gallery.
  • ARod77
    Posts: 7
    Our EF low Mass was sung a capella and went much better than I thought it would, considering the fact that I was a guest conductor for that Mass. We were supposed to sing the Arcadelt Ave Maria for the offertory, but I had to make a last-minute change because the basses were having trouble with their notes and there was no time to fix it...

    Processional: Praise to the Lord - Lobe den Herren
    Offertory: solemn tone Salve Regina
    Communion: Adoramus Te Christe - Dubois
    Adoro Te Devote chant
    Recessional: Hail, Holy Queen
  • ARod,

    How was a Low Mass sung?
  • MarkB
    Posts: 227
    8:00 p.m. candlelight Mass intended for young adults (third Thursday of every month) but all may attend Mass. The pastor is using these third Thursday YA Masses as a way to implement "reform of the reform" novus ordo liturgy, which the parish at large isn't ready for. So, Mass is celebrated ad orientem, chanted Latin Eucharistic acclamations, reverent music. We have a ways to go, but it's attracting more and more young adults and we've come a long way in what we can do musically, which pleases us.

    Music lineup:

    Introit: chanted from Simple English Propers, then Immaculate Mary
    Gloria: Proulx Missa Simplex
    Psalm: Guimont setting
    Alleluia: chanted Gregorian, mode VI
    Offertory: If Ye Love Me, Tallis
    Communion: chanted proper from Simple English Propers, then I Am the Bread of Life
    Recessional: Salve Regina

    You should have heard the young people sing!

    Beautiful Mass! Very close to the way novus ordo ought to be celebrated.
  • CharlesW
    Posts: 10,008
    Holy Ghost Catholic Church, Knoxville, TN

    Entrance: Immaculate Mary (Lourdes Hymn)
    Kyrie: Vatican Edition XVI
    Gloria and remainder of Ordinary: ICEL Chant Mass
    Offertory: Salve Regina - Mode V
    Communion: Alma Redemptoris Mater - Marcel Dupre
    Hymn: You Satisfy the Hungry Heart (Bicentennial)
    Recessional: Hail, Holy Queen Enthroned Above (Salve Regina Coelitum)
    Postlude: Magnificat du 2e Ton - Michel Corrette
  • Charles W,

    That's an interesting collection you have. I don't know Mass XVI, so I'll go look it up when I'm done posting. The ICEL chants seem insipid, but there's more than one reason to sing them (up to, and including, "they're the best my parish can do at this point"). Why did you choose "You satisfy the hungry heart"?

    [So I'm directly and obviously on the topic of this thread...]
    EF Immaculate Heart of Mary Oratory, San Jose,CA

    We sang Cum Jubilo, Gregorian Propers. We had intended to sing (for the first time) Hassler's Dixit Maria, but had not enough time because of the fact that the organist (who also sings) received after the choir.
  • CharlesW
    Posts: 10,008
    That particular Kyrie is in our WLP Missallette and our Ritual Song hymnal arranged by Proulx. Everyone knows it and we have sung it for many years. As long as I plead poverty, I don't end up buying new texts of Mass of Creation and other such that I would rather not use. ICEL chant is fine. Gifts of Finest Wheat: There are not more than three or four acceptable communion hymns in the old Ritual Song book. It's one of the least bad, takes up time, and no one sings communion hymns anyway. I really believe I could program the Hokey Pokey and no one would notice.
    Thanked by 1ghmus7
  • SalieriSalieri
    Posts: 2,419
    Well, Charles, that is, after all, what it's all about!
  • CharlesW
    Posts: 10,008
    Salieri, there's the old joke about the funeral of the creator of the Hokey Pokey taking 4 hours. He kept putting his right foot out of the coffin, then they put his right foot in...
  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
    Posts: 1,557
    I could program the Hokey Pokey


    There's a conspiracy theory that the Hokey Pokey was written as a subversion of the Consecration at Mass. The logic is as follows:

    The priest makes the sign of the cross over the host - puts his right hand in and puts it out and "shakes it all about". He "does" the Hok-ey Pokey (that is, he pronounces the words Hoc est Corpus) and turns himself around (in order to face the people). Since the act of consecration is the essential part of the Mass, it could indeed be said to be that which it is all about.

    Mind you, folks - this is from the same sort of people who argue that drinking coffee out of cups lacking saucers is a sure sign of the moral decay of Western civilization.
  • CharlesW
    Posts: 10,008
    Actually, I have heard that "hocus pocus" was making fun of the consecration in the old Latin Mass. Apparently, it was magic and not to be believed.
  • NihilNominisNihilNominis
    Posts: 423
    St. Mary, Help of Christians
    Sleepy Eye, Minnesota
    August 15, 2019


    Solemn High Mass (EF)
    30 voice Choir with 9-piece orchestra
    Men's chant schola


    O Purest of Creatures
    Full Propers
    W.A. Mozart, Mass in C, K. 317 "Coronation"
    Fr. Jose Mauricio Nunes-Garcia, Tota Pulchra Es
    Mozart, Ave Verum Corpus
    Anton Bruckner, Ave Maria
    Hail Holy Queen (orchestrated by Aaron Hirsch)
  • Jeffrey Quick
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    St. Sebastian, Akron OH 8/15 5 PM EF
    Mass IX, Credo IV
    Gregorian Proper (psalm-toned verses for Gradual/Alleluia)
    At Offertory: O Maria, virgo pia
    At Communion: Salve Regina (Peter Phillips), O Prima, virgo, prodita (Vesper hymn)
    Recessional: Hail Holy Queen

    Due to the early Mass time, Schola was a bit like the parable of the laborers in the vineyard, and of course every volunteer who straggled in late got the same pay. Plus we'd sung the previous day for a Solemn High for the Vigil, at Church of the Assumption in Broadview Hts. (Fr. Justin, the priest there, is part of our EF priest rotation, so we try to help him out.). So details were not all they could be. On the plus side, we had our highest attendance for an EF Assumption yet: 137. (We've been running about 170 on Sundays in July, and have started doing a 2nd piece for Communion.)
    Thanked by 1Don9of11
  • BruceL
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    I'm too lazy to type it out, but here at St. Paul's in Birmingham, we did the Gregorian introit, alleluia, and offertory, along with the Duruflé Messe cum jubilo. It was really lovely, and doing that piece in the context of the sacred liturgy never gets old. You just need a really good organist!
    Thanked by 1StimsonInRehab
  • ARod77
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    Chris Garton-Zavesky,

    A low Mass can have music. There is just no singing of the propers or ordinary. We only sang hymns etc. and that's what I meant when I said our low Mass was sung. Sorry for the confusion!
  • ARod,

    I play for what is called "Low Mass with Organ", but I limit myself to the Proper melodies and a chosen Ordinary, and only after those are complete do I play anything else. Nevertheless, I must return my question: if you're not singing Propers or Ordinary, why is there any singing at all?
  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
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    if you're not singing Propers or Ordinary, why is there any singing at all?


    Sometimes it depends on the willingness of the priest to sing. For many years at the chapel I semi-regularly attend, only Christmas and Easter would be Sung Masses because the priest felt he didn't have the vocal capability for making music. (He did, however, have the vocal capability for making forty-five minute long sermons rife with non sequitur rants.) We had a choir that wanted to sing, so they resorted to the four-hymn sandwich instead.
  • ghmus7
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    I'm sorry, MJO what's a pontifical mass?