Did cmaa have booth a the convention?
I had offered to help with one this site many times but never got a reply. cmaa seems to be run by the same six people who don't seem to want anyone else to contribute.
just my 02.

I don't discern much to be gained by speculating on ethnicity, nationality and culture as regards CMAA membership or leadership as self-perceived or viewed by competitors and adversaries. Cecilia Nam sings Roman Catholic sacred music, Kevin Allen composes Roman Catholic music, Pedro d'Aquino transcribes Gregorian Chant for use in today's Church and her rites, Wilco and Horst teach children and adults about authentic Roman Catholic liturgical culture, Peter Kwasniewski does all of those things in service to Roman Catholic sacred liturgy and music. That is the CMAA ethos. If NPM must engage in providing equal access to my friends Zaragoza, Manalo, Whitaker, Cortez and the rest of the cultural spectrum, as we used to say in the 60's, that's their bag. It is simply because of our RC/CMAA ethos that we don't have to feature quotas.
I am compelled to remind my friend ghmus7 that CMAA and its board has never, to me, given any indication of being a closed star chamber or oligarchy. Yes, like all organizations there occasionally occur some internecine disagreements, most of them in CMAA (to my knowledge) are resolved successfully and positively, others require some passage of time. The fact that the board and other very influential members tolerate my preposterous self as a member attests to that. I'd even go so far as to say if I wasn't financially strapped, which prevented a 3rd Duquesne for me and Wendy, I'd happily spend my money and time, including $900 booth fee, to represent CMAA at NPM. And I don't think that the board would begrudge that offer due to my eccentricities. CMAA operates on a shoe string with primarily volunteers such as Janet, Richard, Mary Jane, Jenny, et al, and I wouldn't be surprised if that were so for the senior leadership as well.
I haven't watched the first video, so if Horst was dissed there, I'm sure he handled it with Teutonic grace and eloquence. He was not at all marginalized from the English chant discussion. And I'm pretty sure J. Michael Thompson was ecstatic that Horst joined him with Fr. Ruff at the dais.

Fr. Ruff discussion with publishers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Hw3Aq_LKY

Fr. Ruff says some interesting things.

- CMAA membership trends younger.
- CMAA is experiencing growth.
- Chant is "dull music" that only people like him like.

Yes, choirparts, that's the right video.

Above, ghmus7 wrote:

Did cmaa have booth a the convention?
I had offered to help with one this site many times but never got a reply. cmaa seems to be run by the same six people who don't seem to want anyone else to contribute.

Of course we need initiatives: did you actually propose something and contact CMAA about it? (If you only posted a forum comment, that doesn't count: that's not addressed to anyone.)

Looking at NPM's web site, and their conference schedule, I made a few estimates. If we wanted two people on site during the exhibition hours, we'd need 48 man-hours of volunteer time, plus prep time before the event. Could we get two lead volunteers and four assistants from the local area or from attendees? If the volunteers are non-attendees, we'd need to buy some admission passes ($195 ea.); there is also the booth fee ($900) and costs for rented furniture, maybe some video equipment (to show a video about the colloquium), and some printing and shipping, and the budget could run somewhere in the vicinity of $2000. Of course that is based on some arbitrary assumptions.

Reasonable people might say that the cost is out of proportion to the potential benefit. So I hope ghmus7 will not think me unreasonable when I say that his criticism comes off as rash.

Chant is "dull music" that only people like him like.

Chant sung lifelessly is dull music.

Chant sung by people who know what they are doing is INVIGORATING.

Young people everywhere agree.

Still, it's fairly expensive and what do you get for your money? As far as I can tell, not much. Churches that used to foot the bill for this sort of thing don't have the money anymore, and it's not worth the investment to many people, myself included.

I have seen local churches cut back on funding those trips to conventions and seminars. Many churches have not recovered fully from the economic downturn - can we say the "R" word, recession?

And Colloquium was in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Matthew...so your point is...?

Oh, he's probably thinking of Pittsburgh specialties such as the famous relic collection in St. Anthony Chapel on Troy Hill. We visited it, and then I frightened poor matthewj by zooming down the steep hill in my little car.

Digression timeout-
I get Colloquium 26 in St. Louis. Great city. Horst and Cecilia are there. We'll try.
OTOH, should I be still viably employed, think about somethings: Where are-
MaryAnn Carr Wilson, Jeffrey Ostrowski, Jeffrey Morse, Frank La Rocca, Christ ZG, Sam Dorlaque, Christ Tietze, Jeff Culbreath, Adam Wood, Paul Ford, Hildegard, Rudy de Voz, William Mahrt, Matt Meloche and likely a whole lot of folks I can't recall at this moment located?
West....


Phoenix.

Honestly, I think you'll never win. At least in my case, I find it unlikely I'll be able to go to anything much further west than St Louis. To each his own I guess.

The idea of bouncing around is the best, I think. Perhaps a return to SLC or west coast somewhere after StL?

Or Minneapolis/St. Paul?

Oakland is far more likely due to cost - and it gets my vote.

Dallas.

ZG? Usually when people abbreviate the name (which, honestly, I prefer they wouldn't, but I expect to lose that battle, since I've been losing it for nearly 25 years) they get the letters the other way around.

Garton-Zavesky

The Oakland Cathedral would be a gorgeous venue.

Yeah, yeah... I've spent many an hour listening to Cal-I-fornians chunter on and on about the glories of their state (never mentioning the whole tax/drought thing). I should think you could do better than Oakland, though (I kinda like Truckee). Anyway, as far as Colloquium goes, best to take solace from the Monkeys: Ya better get ready... we may be comin' to your town. 2020?

This would be another great option in Richmond Va's, museum district:

http://database.organsociety.org/photos/VA/Richmond.StBenedictRo.2013PasiOrganB.0909.163716.jpg

It's OK. We'll bring our own water.

Or have the miracle of turning wine into water.

And I’ll be 21 by a Colloquium whose location is yet to be determined... Yay!

You can card me any day, Mr. C...

Oh you weren't talking about me...?

Let me return the favor, San Diego's a stunningly beautiful locale as well.

Ooh, ooh....are you working on your magnus opus, Missa dei Fab Quattro?

Thanks E-G, I put that on my playlist next to the Monks of Silo de Benzedrine.