The Archdiocese of Washington has authorized early implementation. See statement here: http://site.adw.org/music

The site has a complete set of listings, but it simply appears to be merely what pulishers sent them to link. No statement I can see on preferred setting, which is in keeping with His Eminence's style in regards to music.

The Archdiocese of Louisville is NOT allowing early implementation. We can practice, but we cannot use.

Take a deep breath and in 25 words or less tell me why any diocese would not permit this to begin in September? What are they trying to protect their people from? And why, of why, did they set Advent as the time to do this and now do all this ridiculous waffling?

The reason given in these parts is to NOT mix the old mass with the new musical settings. It was said that we will make a clean move from one to the next on Advent 1. But we have a 13 week preparation and catechesis period. 5 minutes before every mass, the people will learn about the question of the week and also learn a musical portion. Not prefect, but better than an unnamed diocese that I left. Also, handouts every week in the bulletin showing the old and the new and town hall meetings to learn about the change. Could be worse!

Frogman, this is total and complete speculation on my part, but many dioceses place a premium on unity, and considering many parishes haven't even begun to think about missal catechesis, they want to legislate the mean

I'm wondering if we're not hearing from all the dioceses because not all the dioceses have said ANYTHING at all. I've looked at a bunch of diocesan websites, and there is nothing on several that is anything other than the link to the USCCB website. I put up the "Do we even need to bother with a new hymnal" question on several Catholic websites, and not even gotten a response, as if no one is even aware of the question. Personally, I would prefer silence to pushing what the publishers want. Is that it? It's not that there's no guidance on early implementation...it's that there's no guidance?

I've noticed that dioceses that are mandating something other than Missal chants are NOT printing this fact on their websites.

Somone from Cincinnati posted this on another site, and I have to admit that, while the results were not what I would want, they reflect the correct process. The person said that all the diocesan music directors were involved in a months-long vetting process. This is the kind of process where the music championed here will eventually have an impact. And they were wise enough to not buy the come-ons from the publishers and to produce a pew booklet themselves.

http://www.catholiccincinnati.org/ministries-offices/worship/the-new-roman-missal/music-directors

Here in Providence it's the green light for Gloria, Sanctus, and Memorial. However, they did not specify any particular setting(s). Boston DID - the Sacramentary chants - and I wish Providence would have followed suit. Not all is lost, though, as at my parish we ARE using the Sacramentary chants during the fall.

Spoken texts must wait till 11/27.
BMP

BMP:

That list of what we should be glad about could go on, but Mass for the City is another one that sounds so tired. At the Shrine for the Assumption (somebody having miscalculated because it was not a day of obligation this year and so forced crowds into the Crypt), we sang the Missa de Angelis in Latin, did a nice Pslam chant by Peter Latona, spoke the Credd...and then we shifted for some reason to Mass for the City, an odd choice because fully half the people there probably can't sing any English Mass setting comfortably.

And then we got to an old point: the recessional was--if I get this right without a book handy--Salve Regina Coelitum, and the dome of the Crypt practically blasted into the High Altar upstairs. Sing a hymn people FEEL, and away you go.

Kenneth

I'm convinced the best thing any of us could do is refuse to buy new hymnals. Use the old ones and put new mass settings on pew cards. That just might get the attention of the publishers and let them know that business as usual doesn't work anymore.

Thanks, Maureen. With that note about the communal chants, rather than modern settings, it sounds as if the Archbishop wants everyone to feel that they are part of the process and be reminded in the end that we are all members of the Universal Church.

Alas, I come bearing bad news.

As I have said, I have spent the last year mainly at the Shrine, for various reasons, and for reasons of laziness never seem to hit any of the big Masses, so instead of Peter Latona's outstanding music, allowing for the fact that he has to provide music to inspire 3 or 4 thousand people at once at the big Masses, I get a pretty normal exposure to the Mass--a cantor, an organist, and a priest, all of high skill but varying natures. The only advantage from the Shrine is that "high skill" thing, and that there isn't a stone in the Crypt Church that isn't magnificent. Oh,yes, and liturgical innovation is not something you ever have to endure.

But looking at the Archdiocese of Washington website, and being a parishioner at the Cathedral of St. Matthew, I had a suspicion that this whole thing would be another one of His Eminence's top-down exercises. I have never heard of anything emanating from the curia that wasn't distinctly ex cathedra in tone. I felt sure the list of documents and links on the websites was just that, and doubted that much reaction was solicited from all those workshops for parish leaders. Sure enough, I was talking this whole thing over with a very informed colleague, a parishioner at one of the most prestigious churches with a highly educated membership. Indeed, one of the most prominent (and reliable) Catholic intellectuals in the world goes there, though he is retired and largely silent, alas.

Her question: "When does this all happen?"

If we are to get early implementation, we will be told when we walk in and find pew cards. And we won't be told if we aren't getting early implementation.

The Weekly -- August 15, 2011
A Chancery publication for the employees, parish staffs, clergy and Religious of the
Diocese of Oakland

(page 4)
Early Implementation of New Mass Settings
The USCCB announced that Diocesan Bishops may permit the gradual introduction of the
musical settings of the people’s parts of the Mass from the new Roman Missal in
September. Primarily this affects the Gloria, the Sanctus and the Memorial Acclamations.
Bishop Cordileone has approved the gradual introduction of the new Mass settings, and
pastors in consultation with their music ministers can decide whether they would like to
gradually implement the new Mass settings beginning September 2011.

I'm in the St. Cloud diocese (MN).

I asked our pastor about it at the parish council meeting recently. He said he hasn't heard anything .

-M

"Most Reverend George V. Murry, S.J., Bishop of Youngstown, is permitting only the new texts of the Gloria, Sanctus and Memorial Acclamations to be sung at Mass in the Diocese of Youngstown beginning in September. This permission is granted only if these texts are sung by the people. No other texts, prayers, acclamations, or responses from the new Roman Missal beyond the Gloria, Sanctus, and Memorial Acclamations are permitted to be spoken or sung by the celebrant or people until the implementation date of November 27, 2011.

Once a new sung Mass part is introduced, it should continue to be used each week. This gradual implementation is not required, rather it is allowed for an easier transition to the revised texts. Whatever decision you make for your community, it will be important to provide proper catechesis and instruction to alleviate confusion and help the faithful understand the changes."

At St. Patrick's in Kent, it was same old same old. Really, I expect to be hearing the old translation in the D of Y into next year.

Next week, at the Cathedral Parish of St. Raphael in Madison, Wisconsin, we are going to use Randall DeBruyn's Mass of the Resurrection, beginning at the Sanctus, until the end of Mass. The new gloria will begin in October, but I'm not sure what setting yet.
Edit: We will actually be using DeBruyn's gloria as well, come October.

I'm not crazy about it, but it is one of the better new Mass settings.

"To me the problem of liturgical authority has never been about liturgy, but ecclesial interest or lack thereof."
Bingo! And I've seen little evidence that Bp. Murry is interested in liturgy. judging by some of the flagrant liturgical abuses I've seen in the diocese.I'm not second-guessing his priorities; it's hard to keep the church going in an area where everyone is on the dole. I'm just not seeing evidence of attention...which is something that doesn't require money.