Instant chant engraving with Gregorio
  • Josh
    Posts: 103
    To my great surprise, when I went to find an example, I discovered that this function now works again - many thanks, and apologies!
  • Ousier
    Posts: 3
    Dear Chonak, thank you soooooo much for this treasure ! I discovered it about 5 months ago, and I started coding some scores (mozzarabic lamentationes, lectiones...). I even mixed gregorian with some Finale modern notation scores, that is very useful for my little french choir, to sing for instance Popule Meus by Victoria with the gregorian Reproaches.
    I have a question : is it possible to modify the margins (a balance between crop margins and the default ones) ? I tried on Adobe pro but it seems to be impossible...
    I now that it is possible on Gregorio, but after having tried for 1 month I didn't manage to produce anything good, i'm not good enough in English and informatic.
    Any help would be great !
  • chonakchonak
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    There isn't an option to adjust the margins on the site at gregoiochant.org. You can change the paper size and get a PDF that is, for example, 6"x9". It would be possible then to print that on conventional letter-sized paper.

    The other web site for running Gregorio has a feature for adjusting the width of the score, so you can try that:
    http://apps.illuminarepublications.com/gregorio/
  • Hugh
    Posts: 195
    Ousier,

    you mentioned en passant that you've done up a mixed Victoria/chant version of the Popule Meus. Have you made that available on the web? I'd very much appreciate a copy, as we've sung a mixed version for the last few years, and I decided on Good Friday this year that it would be good to have it all set out, to eliminate the trouble of going between Victoria and the chant. Happy Easter!
  • andreasadiandreasadi
    Posts: 16
    Hello.
    i need help how to create grego sheet by gabc natation and TexLive. i'm already instal and following instruction form both software, but nothing happen displaying my sheet.
    can someone help me?
    (ps: using illuminare need constant internet connection)
    PM me.
    thank you very much
  • chonakchonak
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    You can use my web interface for gregorio without a constant internet connection:
    http://run.gregoriochant.org/
    (this URL replaces the former site name at gabrielmass.com)

    You can edit your GABC text file on your PC before you connect; then connect, use the web site, save the PDF output, and then disconnect.

    This will be easier than installing the software at home. Learning TeX is a lot of work, and I do not encourage beginners to bother with it.
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  • chonakchonak
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    Here, incidentally, is a free online course for learning LaTeX, when you get to the point of needing it: e.g., for typesetting articles or books:
    https://www.overleaf.com/latex/learn/free-online-introduction-to-latex-part-1
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  • andreasadiandreasadi
    Posts: 16
    all.
    i did it using TexLive and gregorio.
    it's work!! Finally!!
  • Ousier
    Posts: 3
    Hugh,
    I'm sooooo sorry for the delay ! I just saw today your answer...
    Here is my edition of Popule Meus. It's not complete, because I don't sing it entirely, we're not that much in my parish and i can't skip Crux Fidelis !
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  • chonakchonak
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    A little update to the online Gregorio processor: it now supports the undertie character ( ‿ ) , which is helpful for representing vowel elisions in Spanish.

    Here is a GABC example:

    name:Gloria (Misa VIII);
    %%
    (c3)GLO(h)ria‿{a}(fe) Dios(d) en(e) el(f) cie(e_)lo,(d_) \greheightstar(::) y‿{e}n(h) la(h) tie(f)rra(e) paz(d_) a(e) los(f) hom(e_)bres(d_) (,) que(d) a(d)ma(e) {e}l(f) Se(h)ñor.(ih..)

    and the site address is

    http://run.gregoriochant.org/

    Output looks like this:
    image

    As usual, let me know if anything about it doesn't seem to be working.
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  • francis
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    I am trying to open a GABC PDF file in illustrator to layout organ modern notation with GC notation above it. I cannot find the correct chant notation font in order to open the PDF so that it renders correctly. I downloaded fonts I found on the internet that I believe are Tex fonts. Are these the right ones? I am on a mac using Adobe CC.

    greciliae-hole.ttf
    greciliae-hollow.ttf
    greciliae-op-hole.ttf
    greciliae-op-hollow.ttf
    greciliae-op.ttf
    greextra.ttf
    gregall.ttf
    grelaon.ttf
    gresgmodern.ttf
  • chonakchonak
    Posts: 8,966
    Font files by those names are part of the standard Gregorio installation which is provided in the TexLive system.
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  • francis
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    Hi Chonak

    I have these fonts but looks like i need gresym.ttf and greciliae.ttf... those are not in the list above, and i cannot find them anywhere... i found the .pfb versions, but they do not work.
  • chonakchonak
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    I'll send a copy by e-mail.
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  • francis
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    Just so people know the answer to my question posed above, the fonts for GABC do not resolve in Adobe apps... not sure if it is because of my computer or a font conflict. Thanks just the same chonak for your help.
  • francis
    Posts: 10,151
    Hi All (and Richard especially) :)

    I am using the Illuminare editor and want to reduce space between some of the words and syllables so that my lines fit neatly to the prescribed length. Is there a way to accomplish this? In typography it is called kerning. Would love to be able to do this in the gabc tool. Thanks.
  • a_f_hawkins
    Posts: 3,157
    francis - if you will excuse my correction, what you want to achieve is called tracking - changing the general spacing between letters (kerning is between particular pairs of letters, such as AW). I mention this in case it makes it easier to find any reference on how to do it.
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  • chonakchonak
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    The on-line system at run.gregoriochant.org has a more recent edition of the Gregorio software than is at Illuminare, so you might try running your code there to see if the result might happen to produce more favorable spacing.

    There are many adjustable parameters in the GregorioTeX system that regulate the placement of objects, so it is conceivable that the spacing between words might be adjustable.

    To do customized use of Gregorio, you should install a copy of the TeXLive software edition on your PC; that will include the latest version of Gregorio. You'll need to learn to write document files for the LaTeX document processing system, and also use the available GregorioTeX macros to set the parameters you want to work with. If you're new to LaTeX, you can start with https://www.latex-tutorial.com/tutorials/ . The GregorioTeX macros are documented in this https://github.com/gregorio-project/gregorio/releases/download/v5.2.1/GregorioRef.pdf . It's 305 pages.
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  • -b
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    Hello, Richard. It's been a while since I used Gregorio so I don't know if some codes have been changed. I have successfully created notation for a Versicle and Response, however with two mysteries left unsolved. 1. After some unacceptable versions, I ended up with the desired two staves instead of the Response continuing on the same staff until it was out of room and finished on a second staff. I don't know how this happened, but I'm glad that's taken care of. 2. I'm trying to get the V-slash and R-slash using the code Summary and it just ain't happening. I have for example, V/ for the Versicle on my code sheet. I've tried putting it in different places in the code. Annotation got it to a good place by the score but did output the V-slash that is customary for the Versicle. Much obliged for your attention.
  • chonakchonak
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    The V/ and R/ have to be wrapped in an "sp" . . . "/sp" tag, like this:

    %%
    (c3)<sp>V/</sp>. {A}(h)do(h)rá(h)te(h) De(hi)um,(h_') (,)
    al(h)le(fe)lú(f_h)ia.(hiH'Ghih.ghG'FE'fggf.) (::Z)
    <sp>R/</sp>. {O}m(h)nes(h) An(h)ge(h)li(h) e(hi)jus,(h_') (,)
    al(h)le(fe)lú(f_h)ia.(hiH'Ghih.ghG'FE'fggf.) (::)
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    The initial-style setting was 0 (zero) for this example.
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  • Thank you for this wonderful tooll!!
    Blessings.
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  • chonakchonak
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    It's been on-line for ten years!
  • janetgorbitzjanetgorbitz
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    Wow! has it been that long???
  • JonathanKKJonathanKK
    Posts: 541
    It's what got me started, in 2011, until my Dad saw what I was doing and installed TeX.

    I am still pottering away on and off, and hope eventually to have a book to show for it.
  • francis
    Posts: 10,151
    so i was trying to engrave a piece i composed (in English) using the Source and Summit score editor for GABC and cannot figure out how to move the te sign (flat) and natural sign to a specific line or space. Does anyone know how to do this? also, i cannot get the sharp sign to show up... do you put the # sign before the note name? [e.g., #sharp(i)]
  • Just messing around (with Latin, but the same principles apply).

    %%
    (c4) Gau(c)de(d)a(ixdh'i)mus(h.) (,) mus(d#)


    You need to move the ix (or iy for the natural) around accordingly, and sometimes you just have to play with it. # goes after the letter.
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