Propers for Mass for the Family
  • DOAdvocate
    Posts: 26
    I’m struggling to find Gregorian propers for this Mass for a particular need - for the Family, number 12 in the Missal (2011). I can’t see it in the Graduale. If someone could provide the list of the 5 propers and/or where I would ordinarily find them that would be great.

    Similarly, what readings should be used? Is that in the lectionary (I’ve not got one to hand at the moment)?

    I’m Bishop’s Conference of England and Wales, if that’s relevant to the above.
  • rich_enough
    Posts: 1,076
    According to this website (generally very reliable), for the Mass for Families "Readings from the Mass of the Feast of the Holy Family, no. 17, or from the Mass for Family and Friends, nos. 953-56, may be used."

    As for the proper chants, the only propers given in the Roman Missal are the Introit and Communion, neither of which have chant settings. (This Mass is not listed in the Ordo Cantus Missae). I would presume you could sing the Gregorian propers for the feast of the Holy Family.
  • GerardH
    Posts: 620
    I would presume you could sing the Gregorian propers for the feast of the Holy Family.

    Or you could just do a votive Mass of the Holy Family instead, using all the texts from the feast.

    EDIT: And you could just use the readings for the day - some might even say that is preferred.
  • MatthewRoth
    Posts: 3,210
    ^even in the NO can you have a votive Mass of the Lord like that??
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  • DOAdvocate
    Posts: 26
    Thanks for the suggestions - I share the concern of @MatthewRoth but regardless I’d rather have a Mass for a particular need over a devotional (votive) Mass. I’ll use the readings and propers for the Holy Family. And I think Mass XV.

    Thanks all! Especially @rich_enough for the link.
  • smvanroodesmvanroode
    Posts: 1,089
    Or you could just do a votive Mass of the Holy Family instead, using all the texts from the feast.
    ^even in the NO can you have a votive Mass of the Lord like that??


    Of course not, there is no such thing as a votive Mass of the Holy Family. The Graduale Novum gives the following propers for the Missa pro familia:

    IN Deus in loco sancto suo
    GR Ecce quam bonum
    AL Gaudete iusti
    OF In te speravi
    CO Quicumque fecit

    I would also use the readings of the day.
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  • MatthewRoth
    Posts: 3,210
    The introit is the same as on the feast.
  • GerardH
    Posts: 620
    GIRM 375. Votive Masses of the mysteries of the Lord or in honour of the Blessed Virgin Mary or of the Angels or of any given Saint or of all the Saints may be said in response to the devotion of the faithful on weekdays in Ordinary Time, even if an optional memorial occurs. However, it is not permitted to celebrate as Votive Masses those that refer to mysteries related to events in the life of the Lord or of the Blessed Virgin Mary, with the exception of the Mass of the Immaculate Conception, since their celebration is an integral part of the course of the liturgical year.

    Clearly one can celebrate a votive Mass of the Lord. The Holy Family is not a specific event in the life of the Lord (like the Baptism of the Lord), and if saints or various feasts/memorials of Our Lady may be celebrated as votives, so too can the Holy Family.
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