contemporaryworship92

* When do you just give up?
Important discernment question: is your struggle with the pastor, or with the congregation? If you and your pastor share a vision, but you have a difficult congregation, that's a challenge you can solve slowly, if you're willing to do th…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 September 3 permalink
Lamentations and Observations of a Gregorian Greenhorn (My Story as a Young Catholic Musician)
I'm not sure who you're talking to here. No one I know thinks that a beautiful liturgy exhausts all efforts at evangelization, or that it somehow excuses anyone from interacting with people. In fact, this shows that liturgy and evangeliza…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 August 12 permalink
Lamentations and Observations of a Gregorian Greenhorn (My Story as a Young Catholic Musician)
Charles you have good intentions and I imagine this is a frustrating experience. To echo some of the thoughts above, I suggest being more strategic in your management of your political capital. I was labeled a “purist” and “traditionalist,” but I w…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 August 12 permalink
Market Pivot Toward Tradition in OCP's Heritage Missal
Ugh - are we at that point where “They’ll Know We are Christians” is now considered “traditional”? As is right and just! We’re now at that point where, “Here I am, Lord” is considered “traditional” by Gen Xers and Xennials Reasonably likely this …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 July 7 permalink
General Resource for Catholic Choir music
Possibly a bit of a tangent from what you are looking for, but since the conversation has drifted in this direction: pretty much every liturgy planning guide I am aware of is terrible. Even when the song suggestions are theologically unobjectionable…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 29 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
This has been discussed here many times, but the upshot is that it is not sustainable: a new pastor or bishop can upend years of work. The story has been told so many times here and elsewhere that it's a little surprising to see this offered wi…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 13 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
I substantially disagree with this in particular. I believe we all have the ability to significantly improve the Novus Ordo liturgy in our own local communities simply by showing up. Volunteer for a choir, for a liturgy committee, take a part time …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 13 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
Oh gosh no Tell me more!

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 12 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
I have made a thorough case for the restoration of the Roman Rite and the rejection of the "banal on the spot fabrication" of liturgists from the 1960s. This case should be judged on its own merits rather than dismissed out of hand.Here�…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 12 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
@ProfKwasniewski, On the other hand, I think it's reasonable to discuss where the committee that created the Novus Ordo didn't follow their directions, made bad prudential decisions, or simply did bad things with ulterior motives. I think …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 12 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
@ProfKwasniewski I've been meaning to reply to your comments for awhile now, and this is the first time in awhile I've had the time to put a proper rebuttal together. What I find most interesting in some of the comments here is the comp…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 12 permalink
Journeysings —thoughts?
Having previously served at a parish with Journeysongs, I think it's the best option available from OCP or GIA. It has pretty much every hymn you would want and *most* of the modern music is good. Notably good modern songs in Journeysongs: -C…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 May 28 permalink
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Why use many words when few words do trick

Comment by contemporaryworship92 May 15 permalink
Pope Leo XIV
What are the only two things that don't change at a Jesuit Mass?

Comment by contemporaryworship92 May 13 permalink
Hymn for Pope Leo!
I made a version of Christus Vincit with English verses. Feel free to use.

Comment by contemporaryworship92 May 12 permalink
Pope Leo XIV
Synodality applied evenly and fairly should result in everyone getting a fair hearing on matters of liturgy.

Comment by contemporaryworship92 May 8 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
@contemporaryworship92 Moral theology disputes or dissent are not germane. I push back on Peter when necessary, even publicly. I would sit this one out. I'm not sure if I follow your point here. Is your claim that we can bracket PK's appa…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 26 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
This might best be the subject of another thread, but: To the best that I can tell, Peter Kwasniewski is presently a dissenting theologian. Does the CMAA, NLM, this forum, et. al. stand for doing what the Church asks with the liturgy, or does it …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 26 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
As important as the music is, it is even more important to preserve the texts of the Mass I agree so far , and this is what is done when proper antiphons are sung in the vernacular This is where I start to question whether the theory and the situat…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 26 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
I would also like to draw attention to an important qualifier in the text of Musicam Sacram regarding the pride of place of Gregorian chant: 50. In sung liturgical services celebrated in Latin: (a) Gregorian chant, as proper to the Roman liturgy,…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 25 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
I am willing to grant for the sake of argument that option 1 is the preferred option for Novus Ordo Masses celebrated entirely in Latin. This is very important. Whatever you may want to claim about hierarchical preference elsewhere, if the "h…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 25 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
The introduction of option 4 is a new concept in the construction of what music to use. I don't think this is the case. Musicam Sacram states the following: 32. The custom legitimately in use in certain places and widely confirmed by indults, …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 25 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
That does not mean selecting from among the options is a matter of indifference. I agree. I think there are very good reasons to prefer option 4 of the GIRM in hymn selection on Sundays where the antiphon text is unrelated to the reformed lectiona…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 25 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
The GIRM is quite plain that option one is to sing from the GR. This would very self-evidently include ordinary time. Option 1 can mean "preferred option" or it can mean "first in numerical order." Absent further instruction fro…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 25 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
I would trust the most "trivial" choices of text for a given Sunday, passed down through the centuries, over my own subjective choice 100% of the time. I'm only referring to what's been handed down since 1969. My comments aren&#…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 25 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
What it comes down to is whether we want to submit ourselves to the texts that have been handed down to us and trust Holy Mother Church (option 1) or supplant said texts with something we subjectively as individuals believe to be superior (option 4)…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 25 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
Paradoxically, many of antiphons currently in the NO would fail this criterion for how their text relates to the rest of that day's liturgy. So it seems to me that the texts of the Vatican II documents and the GIRM anticipate composers writing…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 25 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
NB I do not want to provoke a discussion on the merits/demerits of the NO. There is a particular problem with the ancient propers and the 'chants between the readings' in the NO. Traditionally these were reflective pieces, meditations almo…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 24 permalink
“It’s easy to mistake emotional manipulation for a movement of God, right?”
I think it's straightforwardly obvious that God communicates with us through our feelings, and our thoughts, and sometimes both. We need discernment to be able to recognize *when* it's God communicating to us, vs. what is of merely human o…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 24 permalink
“It’s easy to mistake emotional manipulation for a movement of God, right?”
I read the entire article. The headline is somewhat click-baity. The central thesis of the article appears to be: “Emotional manipulation in a worship service is like a shepherd leading people to certain pastures without knowing why,” wrote Zac Hic…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 22 permalink

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