Publishers announced for new Breviary!
  • RMSawicki
    Posts: 150
    smcatherine:

    I think Volume 1 is for Advent/Christmas, not Ordinary Time 1-17, right? It is usually the lightest of the four, since it covers the shortest amount of elapsed time.

    Gaudete in Domino Semper!
  • monasteryliturgistmonasteryliturgist
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    @smcatharine it seems to me ascension will have a similar issue. Obviously this is just an observation from pictures, but although their version looks smaller in pages height and width, the depth of the book looks much thicker.Based on some videos I have seen of it being handled.
  • MonasticChantress
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    Word on Fire gave me the same answer about the weight: 2.5 lbs for the Lent/Easter volume, and basically the same for the two Ordinary Time volumes. That is a tad heavier than the current Large Print volume one of our Sisters uses. We would all have to wear wrist supports to hold that for the hours each day that we sing the Office. Their volume is clearly the best value, and beautiful, but they brag about all the extra white space on their pages!

    Ascension, on the other hand, has not yet responded to my first or second e-mails asking about weight, and it has been over a week since the second e-mail.
  • novusgordo
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    Re the Canadian implementation, a response from +Dowd (Sault Ste.-Marie) via Reddit:
    As for LH, a canonical vote is underway, but as ballots are due by July 20 we do not have results. That said, the proposal is to use the USA base text with Canadian adaptations re the calendar and propers for saints.
    IOW it sounds like we end up the same place we are now - one lectionary and psalter for the Mass, another for the Office - but at least with the texts now actually bearing some resemblance to the Latin typical editions.
  • igneusigneus
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    We would all have to wear wrist supports to hold that for the hours each day that we sing the Office.

    Time to switch from handheld books to large choir books laying open on the choir stalls?
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  • GerardH
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    Time to switch from handheld books to large choir books laying open on the choir stalls?
    Speaking of which, what happened to that thread of diminutive chant scholars studying ordinary-sized chant books?
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  • RMSawicki
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    Midwest Theological has just released their standalone Compline!

    Gaudete in Domino Semper!
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  • a_f_hawkins
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    Speaking of which ...
    https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/13959
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  • ServiamScores
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    MTF books are very nice. Happy to see it.
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  • ServiamScores
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    Has anyone managed to find advertised a digital version of the text anywhere? Or has anyone managed to get their hands on an advanced copy of the new translation?

    I have ordered my physical books, but we are doing Advent vespers and I'd like to begin revising the booklets so they match the new translation, and I'd rather not have to wait until my physical copy is delivered on Friday afternoon before Advent I, lol. At first I intended to just reprint the booklets I produced last year, but it seems very imprudent to use the old translation right as everyone is getting their books for the new. I'd like to just rip the bandaid and jump right in so that way anyone showing up to church with their new books won't be confused.

    If anyone would prefer to discuss this matter privately, feel free to PM me or my username @gmail
  • fcbfcb
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    Official first-use for the new books is this Ash Wednesday, and publishers will be issuing the four volumes piecemeal--so no one will have the new book on Advent I, and when they do get the first volume (publishers say in January), it will be the Lent-Easter volume. So I'd say just reprint the old booklets.
  • ServiamScores
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    oh I feel better about this. for some reason I had confused Advent I and Ash Wednesday. (I thought it was for the start of the liturgical year.) So it's LENT I have to worry about lol. I'll set that fear aside for the time being.
  • monasteryliturgistmonasteryliturgist
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    @ServiamScores to reiterate what @fcb has mentioned, the new translation does not go into mandatory use until Advent of 2028 so you still have some time. But in the mean time, the only thing I believe that you can really get your hands on right now are "The Abbey Psalms and Canticles" which is the translation used for the "Psalms and Canticles" as well, I believe the REVISED New American Bible which came out this year or last year will be used for the readings in both the Mass and the LOH.
  • ian_udell
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    @monasteryliturgist the one that will be used for Mass and LOTH will be the CAB (Catholic American Bible) which, as the Magnificat website put it, "The CAB features a new translation of the New Testament that is more faithful to the original texts, the updated Old Testament contained in the Revised Edition of the New American Bible (NABRE), and the newly translated Abbey Psalms and Canticles [available now]." It comes out Feb 2027.
  • novusgordo
    Posts: 70
    At least your episcopal conference tells you things. The last I heard, the CCCB English-sector commission had proposed simply using the USCCB texts - which would once again mean completely different lectionaries and psalters for the Mass and the Office! - but no final decision had been made, much less a timeline established. (And I only found that out by directly asking a bishop, and not even my own Ordinary, but +Dowd who occasionally posts on Reddit!)

    (And that's to say nothing of the "is it vaporware or isn't it?" status of Music for Catholic Worship...)
  • monasteryliturgistmonasteryliturgist
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    @ian_udell the USCCB website says: "Each Conference of Bishops is responsible for the translation of Sacred Scripture that is used in the liturgy. For the Liturgy of the Hours, Second Edition, the psalms and canticles will be those translated by the monks of Conception Abbey, Missouri, while the latest version of the New American Bible will be employed for the various readings...The various readings from Scripture will be taken from the latest edition of the New American Bible, Revised Edition: the 2010 Old Testament and a revised 2024 edition of the New Testament. Together with The Abbey Psalms and Canticles used for the Book of Psalms and the liturgical canticles, these elements form the "liturgical Bible," that is, a sole translation of the Bible that will be used in liturgical books and available for devotional study by the faithful."
  • RMSawicki
    Posts: 150
    Midwest Theological Forum has begun polling readers/customers on what features they would like to see incorporated in their forthcoming diurnal. Smart move!
    Once again, as both WOF and Ascension found out, a greater number of ribbons always seems to top everyone's list - or at least place in the top three. Additionally, I note a query regarding the possibility of a two-column format which would reduce unused space on pages, as well as reduce the overall number of pages resulting in reduced book thickness which, as some commenters have mentioned, might be an issue for people with smaller hands and/or arthritic conditions.
    As this period of breviary/diurnal rollouts unfolds, I do see a wonderful parallel with the rollout of the new Missal a few years back, which resulted in a much greater breadth of choices!

    Gaudete in Domino Semper!
  • monasteryliturgistmonasteryliturgist
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    The only thing with MTF is at least with their hand missals, I have owned 5 different ones, and all of them lost their covers after several years. For some reason the binding is not strong enough for the pages. That would be my one query with them.
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