Parish Clusters / Mergers
  • Susdem
    Posts: 31
    Hi all,

    Does anyone work in a parish cluster (one pastor over multiple parishes) or a combination of parishes that have been merged into one parish (but with multiple "church sites")? If so, could you talk about how you handle the logistics of choir? We are currently part of a cluster of two parishes with a probability of becoming a cluster of four. The trend in our diocese is that you become a cluster of multiple parishes and then are eventually merged into one "parish" with multiple church sites.

    Last year, the religious ed programs were merged which means that all faith formation for both parishes bounces back and forth between the two parishes (even though we are still technically two parishes). Elementary and middle school faith formation are on Sunday mornings at my parish. High school formation is on Sunday mornings at the other parish. This has been fairly devastating to my choirs since it now requires several families to go to the other parish twice a month on Sunday mornings. It also means that my youth choristers who attend faith formation are not able to attend the pre-Mass warmup and rehearsal. I also lost several of my strongest singers either because they were catechists as well as choir members (which was not previously an issue) or because they had children who they now had to take to Mass at the other parish to attend faith formation. Faith formation is also now linked to Mass so attending faith formation and then coming over to my parish to sing in choir is not doable.

    If anyone else has or is in this situation, I would really appreciate any tips as I am trying to decide whether I need to limit the choir to only singing on the "non faith formation" Sundays, a move I really don't want to do but am feeling like that may be my only option.

    Thanks in advance.
    Susan
  • Pretty much all of Maine (where I live) is only the "one parish, many churches" structure. The logistics of it get pretty complicated. Especially where there is one director for the whole parish who oversees multiple churches. Often there is a struggle to try and combine choirs from the other churches because choir members feel very attached to their own church, and not to the clustered parish as a whole. In regards to religious ed I am not too sure.
  • Susdem
    Posts: 31
    If I was in a position of one director for the multiple sites, it would be easier because I would just merge the choirs and follow the religious ed (and the donuts!). But, I'm only over the music at my parish site. My pastor is suggesting just run with cantors only on the Sundays when religious ed is at the other parish but I just really don't want to do that. I know I may have to do it but I really don't want to do that.
  • ServiamScores
    Posts: 3,372
    FWIW, I was speaking to a few people just a couple of days ago at a conference and their approach was that the main adult choir alternated between the two sites every other week so each community got equal treatment. In their cases, there were only two sites, which helped simplify things. I suppose the model could even be extended to a clump of 3. After that, I would imagine things go downhill.
  • liampmcdonough
    Posts: 345
    I have been an organist, though not a music director, at a parish with 6 locations.

    There was a constant and unwarranted push to try and make all the churches do the same music and programs and ministries in the name of unity. It broke the communities apart. The leadership thought it divisive to have different choirs and hymn selections at the different churches.
    Of course, part of the motivation was an ideological agenda to keep an exclusively chant, organ, and traditional hymns mass out of the rotation in the name of everyone doing the same thing. Except of course for the historically black congregation who were allowed to keep doing their catholic gospel soul music mass. Heaven forbid the rest of us get to sing the music that's our cultural inheritance...

    The urge to suppress local variance and tradition is the antithesis of unity.

    Let the community settle where it wants with a merger. Location is a part of identity. If people don't want to go to the other locations, that's fine. If someone only wants to cantor at the church they always sung at and not the new location too, that's fine. Trying to force the St "X" people to be St "X - Y" people will only create antipathy. People will cry disunity and call you sectarian for holding onto a single church identity while holding you hostage to a new hybridized church identity that is just as alien to the community.


    Once you know how resources will shake out, just shape the program as best as you can with available resources.
    If you only have enough choir to support a missa cantata at one location, promote that and make the other masses low masses
    If your people are spread too thin at multiple locations, keep the good choirs and scratch the old.

    Do not promote mediocrity at all locations in the name of making it "fair" across the board. Don't make your choir travel. Don't make every mass at every location the same flavor. The low mass people do not appreciate your traveling choir arriving once a month, and the high church people don't appreciate losing their good choir twice a month to St. Also-now-part-of-the-parish. St X will not appreciate that Dan the favorite guitarist sings at St Traddies once a month, and St Traddies will not appreciate that their reform of the reform efforts are being fumigated by Dan the guitarist and cantors who never learned to sing chant but now if they want to volunteer have to sing at all the churches.


  • irishtenoririshtenor
    Posts: 1,455
    For Sundays when the choir's numbers would be diminished, what about a duo or (very) small group instead of just a cantor? I was able to use a husband-wife (baritone/soprano) team with reasonable success during our re-opening period after COVID before the full choir came back.
  • tandrews
    Posts: 242
    4 parishes here. The traveling choir is comprised of members from just 2 of the churches, mostly from the Cathedral. We do our best to get to all 4 parishes at least once a season (September-December, January-June), but the 2 bigger parishes get the majority of the choir's Sunday Masses, which is limited to twice a month because I have multiple choirs to direct for Sunday Masses at the Cathedral. Each parish has its own separate choirs still so that they can do their own thing, for better or worse.

    I echo liam about doing the same music. Don't force it. We are able to have everyone doing the Heritage Mass and Missal Chants and that's about all the more contemporary parishes can stand, so the hymn-selections are up to the local musicians. There's a bit of screw-twisting for one of the parishes because their accompanists are all coming from the Cathedral and playing Masses at both locations, so why learn 8 hymns instead of 4? Propers are required as well, and a certain rogue parish will do them, albeit the Sarah Hart way. It's better than nothing.

    However we do get compliments when we visit these parishes, and people are grateful to have a choir, if only for a Sunday.

    Just make sure you have your pastor's support and that he has a backbone.
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