Patrick works in an FSSP parish as his handle implies and I have more thoughts having finished a successful wedding today.
There also is no crucifer even though custom usually means that there is.
But as far as the entrance goes coming in together is contrived and I am rubbed the wrong way when I see it: people make it about them by showing off how much of a church nerd they are.
I basically reject all of Sponsa’s analysis for now but I will work through my thoughts later.
@SponsaChristi, I have never seen such rubrics. Where exactly are they to be found?The rubrics have everyone processing in together in one procession.
So is it permitted, contrary to the rubrics, or both? The cross-led grand liturgical procession à la the Sunday parochial Mass, with the bride and groom walking together "as equals" is something I associate with Episcopalians (or sometimes Methodists trying to be "high church"). It hasn't been something I've typically seen at Catholic or other Protestant weddings, and I've been at many over the years! I'm not saying I've never seen it at Catholic weddings, nor that it's not permissible, just that it doesn't seem to be normative in this country.The custom you speak of is permitted, but it is rooted in Protestantism and patriarchal society when women were considered property. It was introduced by the Protestants and isn’t a particularly good representation of the Sacrament of Matrimony.
I'm not sure this is true as a blanket statement.prenups aren’t permitted
Again, where are the rubrics you invoke to be found? Which book, chapter, and numbers?It’s not my analysis.
I'm not sure this is true as a blanket statement.
As I understand it, the actual Marriage rite in the EF varies between countries.
Imposing uniformity in these matters would be unwise, in my view. It is a matter of regional variation.
It can reasonably be surmised from the context of the forum itself (Church Music Association of America, with postings required to be in English), my username, and my use of the term Solemn High Mass, that the context under discussion is an English-speaking traditional Latin Mass community in the United States. I know of nowhere in the country where it would be customary for the bride and groom to exit the church and re-enter between the rite of marriage and the nuptial Mass. More specifically, I asked about when the clergy, servers, groom, and groomsmen should be in place if they're not part of the entrance procession, and when the congregation should be expected to stand and/or the bell rung. I'm not at all interested in further discussion of prenuptial agreements. There are enough Catholic sources available on the internet stating they are not forbidden in all circumstances and sometimes even advisable.Why not just ask the priest who is in charge of the actual rite of marriage is and what the local custom is specifically for your location?
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