Programing in Durufle Requiem
  • Icoloo
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    My choir is performing the Durufle Requiem later this Summer and I am trying to find ways to incorporate parts of the requiem into our weekly Sunday Masses for practice purposes and also just because it is beautiful music! Being newer to programing music for Masses, I don't want to do anything liturgically inaccurate in regards to singing the introit with the requiem text for a "normal" Sunday mass.

    Does anyone see problems with this? Could anyone give me some ideas of how I could program each of the movements of the Durufle for different Sundays? Either for preludes, offetories, communion meditations, etc?

    I really appreciate your guidance and advice!
  • smvanroodesmvanroode
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    As far as I can see, only the Sanctus and Agnus Dei would be appropriate for a Sunday Mass.

    The Kyrie forms one movement with the Introit; the setting lacks of course a Gloria.

    The proper texts are all specifically for a funeral; they would imho not fit into a Sunday Mass.
  • I was just typing out a response nearly identical to the one above. Using requiem propers on a Sunday would be highly unusual. The ordinaries are usable, but really only so long as your congregation and clergy are patient, and if the music doesn't clash stylistically with the rest of the Mass. It would, for instance, be quiet awkward to pair the Durufle Sanctus with the Agnus Dei from the Mass of Creation or somesuch.
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  • Icoloo
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    My thought being using these as a choral anthem more so than in place of the Mass parts in particular!

    We also have a few Mass of Remembrances that our parish do throughout the year that might warrant something a little more special!
  • MatthewRoth
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    Well I know that practice time is limited, but using them as a motet just calls attention to that, when the texts are so obviously out of place.

    And just because it’s Latin doesn’t make it good or appropriate. (Inter vestibulum on a green Sunday is pretty weird!)
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  • Even as motets, the proper texts are unsuited for use on a green Sunday, and using a setting of the ordinary as a motet/anthem would also be quite odd. The music is beautiful, certainly, so I understand you wanting to share it with your congregation during the Mass, but the appropriateness of the texts themselves should be one of the first things you consider.

    Using bits and pieces at a Mass of Rememberance would be far more appropriate; that sounds like a reasonable idea.
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  • rvisser
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    The Agnus Dei would have the wrong text for a Sunday Mass.
    The Requiem Agnus Dei is:
    Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi,
    dona eis requiem.
    Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi,
    dona eis requiem sempiternam.

    Rather than:
    Agnus Dei,
    qui tollis peccata mundi: miserere nobis.
    Agnus Dei,
    qui tollis peccata mundi: dona nobis pacem.
  • Liam
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    The Pie Jesu is the part of Requiem settings (Faure/Durufle) that gets done as a solo anthem in November, the Month of All Souls; the In Paradisum as a choral anthem in that temporal context as well. They would be passing strange at Sunday Mass at any other time of year unless there is a local mass death incident.
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  • Why not just wait until November 2 of this year and use the Requiem as intended for the principal Mass?