Your favourite Masses
  • ServiamScores
    Posts: 2,854
    My favorite Mass is probably the "Missa Regia" by Henry du Mont, which is still quite popular in France.

    I seriously contemplated introducing this mass at our parish this year. Even sent it to the pastor so we could discuss it. At the moment, I haven't taken the plunge, but I really do love it.
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  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
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    The anonymous 17th century Missa Ferialis found in the archives of the Granada Cathedral is a very good choice for Advent or Lent. Very simple.
  • Jeffrey Quick
    Posts: 2,086
    found in the archives of the Granada Cathedral

    And for those of us without access to that archive...is there an edition available?
  • BruceL
    Posts: 1,072
    Malcolm Missa ad Praesepe. If you haven't listened...do it.
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  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
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    Sorry - I’m a bit of a Luddite when trying to put links on the smartphone. This link obviously isn’t live but hope it helps. (Aristotle’s editions are always top notch)

    https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Missa_ferialis_(Anonymous)
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  • Jeffrey Quick
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    Wow! That's totally simple but not cheap. Thank you, and thank you to Mr. Esguerra.
  • stulte
    Posts: 355
    Palestrina is good, but I could easily level against his Masses the same charge as that which is levelled against Vivaldi's concertos.

    I strongly suspect that this is in no small part due to the fact that we only ever hear a tiny fraction of his output of Masses. One could sing a different Mass setting by Palestrina every single Sunday for two years before you had to repeat one of them. But, what usually is sung? Missae Aeterna Christi Munera, Brevis, et Papae Marcelli. Sometimes, Iste Confessor, Assumpta Est Maria, and maybe one or two others. Don't get me wrong, they're great! But, I'd love to hear or sing his Missa Sicut Lilium or Missa Dum Complerentur sometime. Even for a smaller group, Missa Ave Regina Caelorum would be a nice break from the A.C.M. and Brevis.

    While I'm thinking of it, another fellow whose Masses are often ignored is Gregorio Allegri. Missa che fa oggi il mio sole and Missa Vidi Turbam Magnam (the former based on music by Luca Marenzio and the later on a motet by Palestrina) are both very nice.

    Another question concerning Lent: Which masses do you use for this season?

    I'll probably use Missa XVII. I recently took over a group at our Cathedral and am working on getting them more exposure to chant Ordinaries besides de Angelis. We did Orbis Factor for the past month and a half. We'll move onto Missa IX Cum Jubilo for Advent/Christmas/Epiphanytide.
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  • Liam
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    Here's a direct link to one of the two PDFs of that MF:

    https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/images/6/64/Missa_Ferialis_(complete)_-_Anonymous.pdf
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  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
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    Stulte,

    I think you'll find that in far too many places your list of "frequent" Palestrina Mass settings is far too large to accommodate what they actually sing.
  • rich_enough
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    I think where the "Too much Renaissance" problem comes from in Trad. circles is the over-use of Palestrina because of it's alleged "canonization" in Tra le. I don't often hear of Ockeghem Masses being performed, or even Josquin.

    I beg to differ - most of it is simply practical logistics.

    In addition to what Jeffrey said (the bar for entry is quite a bit higher), the last time I sang a Josquin Mass it took twice the time just to get the notes and the Sanctus kept the priest waiting (he didn't mind). The result was thrilling, but it was a real workout even for the pros and would be pretty tough to pull off with a completely amateur choir.

    More often than not the voice ranges of Ockeghem et al. do not lend themselves to a standard SATB choir, and the lines are so long that it's very difficult for a small ensemble to sing unless they are really expert. Ditto for the duets in many Josquin masses - they're not for the faint of heart!

    Perhaps Palestrina and the Roman school can become bland after a while for some, but most non-musicians in the pews delight in what is familiar to them rather than what might excite the members of the choir.

    I'm grateful for any Renaissance I can do and don't see it as a "problem"!
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  • John_F_ChurchJohn_F_Church
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    Thanks for asking! I’ve often tried to put together a top ten of this very question.

    Of course I love any of the Gregorian Masses (especially Mass VIII — normie, I know. But also IX and XI.)

    Then Palestrina — Missa Aeterna Christi Munera and Missa Brevis are Faves of mine.

    But aside from classic chant and Palestrina, here are some others.

    Latin:
    • Monteverdi: Massa a quattri voci (1641) [also, his posthumous one]
    • Gounod: Messe Chorale
    • William Lloyd Webber: Missa Princeps Pacem
    • Rheinberger: Mass in Eb for Double Choir
    • Ralph Vaughn Williams: Mass in G minor
    • Perosi: Missa Cerviana
    • Max Filke: Mass in G (in honor of St Charles Borromeo)
    • Liszt: Missa Choralis
    • Lotti: Mass in D major for 3 voices
    • Caldera/Zelenka: Missa “Providentiae” in D minor

    As far as English goes, I like Clark’s JP2 Mass, and any mass by Jeff Ostrowski.
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  • Jehan_Boutte
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    @ServiamScores

    I seriously contemplated introducing this mass at our parish this year. Even sent it to the pastor so we could discuss it. At the moment, I haven't taken the plunge, but I really do love it.


    Go for it. It is a great Mass to sing, especially for the greater feasts.
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  • RedPop4
    Posts: 50
    Speaking of George Malcom – I just recently discovered him (as a composer) and I really like his Neo-renaissance style. But it seems to me that it's not that much what he wrote and it's hard to find scores. Do they keep it in a safe in Westminster? Or was I just unable to find the publisher? Thanks for help.

    My director, just this morning, asked me to find Malcolm's Benedic Anima Mea and it's like hen's teeth.
  • dad29
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    Flor Peeters, 2 of them: Mass in honor of St Joseph, and the Missa Laudis/St John the Baptist (not in print.)

    Both fine for standard parish choir.
  • ronkrisman
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    Frank Martin, of course.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=frank+martin,+mass+for+double+choir&oq=&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCQgAECMYJxjqAjIJCAAQIxgnGOoCMgkIARAuGCcY6gIyCQgCECMYJxjqAjIJCAMQIxgnGOoCMgkIBBAjGCcY6gIyCQgFECMYJxjqAjIJCAYQIxgnGOoCMgkIBxAjGCcY6gLSAQ0yMzAzMDI4MzRqMGo3qAIIsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:f3a63b4f,vid:uZvPdHhleYM,st:0
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  • M. Jackson Osborn
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    RVW
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  • CharlesW
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    Louis Vierne - Messe Solennelle.
  • M. Jackson Osborn
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    John Taverner - depending on what day it is -
    Missa Gloria tibi Trinitas
    or
    Missa Corona Spinea

    (On a very rare day - Stravinsky)
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  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
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    The Taverner "Missa Gloria tibi Trinitas" is one of my favourites, having sung it several times when I used to sing with Zephyrus (early music ensemble based in Virginia), including one performance at the Cathedral of St. Matthew in Washington, D.C.
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  • liampmcdonough
    Posts: 295
    Gibbons Missa super "Bel 'armfitrit' altera"
    Stanford Communion in C (with Benedictus and Agnus Dei in F)
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  • A_Crabby_Crab
    Posts: 1
    I really like Dvorak's Mass in D Major to listen to.
  • vansensei
    Posts: 217
    Victoria -- Missa O Quam Gloriosum
    Faure -- Requiem
    Schubert -- Mass in G
    Rheinberger -- Cantus Missae

    Frank Martin -- Mass For Double Choir if I had 11 people + myself on baritone
    Refice -- Missa Choralis (too many pre-V2 choir + organ Masses, a lot of them are meh, this is tolerable)

    Another pre-V2 20th-century Mass that's actually quite beautiful is the Tyberg Mass in F. There's a recording of it from the dearly departed South Dakota Chorale; very accessible work.
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