Thank you

Thanks so much Paul, I did mean #84, I'm a little rushed when i type.
I will look in BFW for it.
Let me take the opportunity to tell you I have really found your book to be a great help and resource. Thanks so much!

I am a newbie on this forum, so I hope this is the best place for a few questions relating to priestly ordination. In July, our local bishop is celebrating a Mass of ordination for priests in an order that doesn't have a bishop. My pastor's newly-formed men's schola (directed by a good-hearted convert with choral direction experience but very little Catholic Mass knowledge) has been asked to sing, and I'm cantoring. My pastor is trying to revive Latin in our parish, but he has no training in this area either. I've got Latin / medieval literature training and have learned to read chant notation so have been chanting the Latin propers on Sundays from the Graduale Romanum (with the hope that our choir will be able to learn chant notation eventually so we can chant them as a choir instead of solo), but I have no formal training in liturgy and don't always know where to find answers. I can't seem to find anything in the GR for ordination.

1. Has someone made a Musical Choice Template for Priestly Ordination similar to the one posted here for Diaconate Ordination?

2. How do I know which Latin propers to use for an ordination (most likely Introit, Offertorio, Communio)?

3. Our parish has been using Michel Guimont's psalm settings for years; what does this group think of those - especially of the congruity of using a Guimont psalm setting in an ordination Mass where Latin propers are also used (figuring the congregation would like to sing the psalm refrain and could do so more easily in English)?

4. Our men's schola, which has only existed for a few months, has learned a small assortment of traditional Latin songs (eg. Panis Angelicus, Ave Verum, Magnificat Tone 8, and one or two others), and we want to figure out which ones could be properly placed in a Mass of Ordination. They could learn others, but have modest musical talents and can't take on too much before July.

5. Finally, in general, when I'm asked to chant Latin propers at a weekday Mass, how do I locate which Latin propers to use, given that the GR seems to provide only the ones for Sundays?

I'm very grateful to have found this group. At my parish we desire to bring the ancient forms of sung prayer back to active use, but we have very little knowledge of how to do it, so I hope to learn much from you all!

Thanks,

Joan

Joan,

Here is the commentary I have written on the ordination rite that will help you understand the meaning of what happens.

Blessings,
Paul

Joan,

Here is the list of chants that may be sung at ordinations, according to the 1974 Graduale Romanum (I checked and nothing was changed in the Ordo Cantus Missae, 1987).

Note that this list does not reflect the second edition (now in effect) of the Roman Pontifical, the section on ordinations (1989).

In a few minutes I will post a comparison of that second edition with the 1974/1987 list of chants.

Blessings,
Paul

Thank you so much! I see now where I should have looked in the GR index. So I think I'm all set; you don't need to post the other chants, now that I know where they are. Might you share where you found the Iam non dicam? I don't see it in the GR index. Also, do you know if there's an online Roman Pontifical somewhere? The priest I'm working with at our diocesan office didn't think we had a copy. I presume that's where the music for functions with a bishop can be found?

Blessings and many thanks,
Joan