Others--such as the Benedictines, Franciscans, and Dominicans, might disagree.
What "ages?" The "Mass of the Ages" goes back to the Council of Trent and not much more than that. It has some elements that survived from the authentic Roman liturgies, but much of it dates no earlier than Trent.
There is no Mass of the Ages. That's a romantic and somewhat melodramatic invention by certain writers of the 19th century.
As I have said, Latin (which i love), is not a panacea to fix this problem, but it can't be the sole reason for this problem, not after fifty years, when most of the people who actually lived before the council are dead.
I don’t know how liturgies dating from time immemorial can be replaced entirely when they are clearly protected by the provisions of Quo primum;
I wonder if a compromise could be aimed for, to have the synaxis in the vernacular, but from the offertory onwards in Latin also accompanied by the priest facing the crucifix at the apse, that is, ad orientem, and also in a low voice instead of all this distruptive babbling going on at the altar. But even that is too much for very many, especially those who understand the Mass as nothing more than a community meal. The Church is indeed in crisis, with huge swaths in an informal schism.
But we can't go backward, only forward. As JP II said, you can't turn back the clock.
As JP II said, you can't turn back the clock.
"Cranmerian English" is Not currently vernacular: it was in 1549 when the first Prayer Book was published, or when the Douay Bible was published in 1582-1609 (which book, by the way, was one of the
The second edition of the reformed Missale Romanum hasn't been "abolished" yet either.
And as far as the whole "Mass of Ages" thing: The Tridentine Roman Missal is the Mass of Ages. And so is the Ambrosian Missal, and the Mozarabic Missal, and the Lyonese Missal, and the Sarum Missal, and the Ordinariate Missal, and the Novus Ordo Missae, and (if Charles will forgive me for applying the Western term "Mass" to Divine Liturgy) so are the Liturgies of Chrysostom, Basil, and James of the Byzantine Church, and the Armenian Liturgy, and the Coptic Liturgy, and all the rest of the rites that have been, are, or ever shall be approved for use by the Church. They are all the "Mass of the Ages" because they are the representation of Christ's Sacrifice for our salvation, and the worship His Church gives to Him.
Unless the clock is running fast, and gets ahead of itself. In which case we are obliged to fix the clock.
Thomas Tallis and others of his time composed single chants (16th century), presumably for the new Coverdale translation of the Psalter. Double chants appeared and became common (alongside single chants) rather early in the 18th century. it seems likely, therefore, that Anglican chant has thrived for at least 300 years.,,, I don't think the 500 years of (good) chant in English is true. I would suggest say 150 years (Oxford movement).
Like the Mamas and the Papas said, Charles - "The darkest hour is just before the dawn."
Or is that reference turning back the clock way too far back?
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