Adeste Fideles reharmonization
  • AP23AP23
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    Hi everyone,

    Does anyone know of a free downloadable reharmonization of Adeste Fideles. If you do, could you please give a link?
  • AP23AP23
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    Bumping up. Someone please respond?
  • Kathy
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    What hymnals do you have?
  • AP23AP23
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    I'm not a music director of any parish as some of my previous comments have hinted. I want to use it for a Christmas party at my home. I will post the Latin lyrics on a TV. I need it in G Major.
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    why do you need a RE-harmonization?
  • AP23AP23
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    For the last verse. I don't get what your question means. Isn't that the proper term?
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    http://bit.ly/16NAd1A
  • AP23AP23
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    I want new interesting chords for the last verse. Do you not use reharmonizations?
  • AP23AP23
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    Bump
  • Kathy
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    At a certain point you have to say, "I will pay you to compose something for me."
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  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Have you thought about, you know, using a Search Engine or perusing the catalog of a sheet music publisher?
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  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Or learning to re-harmonize yourself?
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  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Or just adding Sevenths to every other chord?
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  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Or using the same chords and varying the accompaniment style?
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  • AP23AP23
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    Well, I've already found several books that cost money that have reharmonizations. But, seeing as it's an old traditional public domain hymn, I think you could find a free reharmonization of it. That's why I said free at the beginning.
  • AP23AP23
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    Or using the same chords and varying the accompaniment style?



    What do you mean by that?
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    found several books that cost money that have reharmonizations

    The interesting thing about the Free and Open music movement is that it is built on generosity, not stinginess.
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  • Kathy
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    Well, it's kind of built on both, really.
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  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    I think you could find a free reharmonization of it

    Or you could.
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  • AP23AP23
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    I meant "you" not meaning you specifically, but a person.
  • Kathy
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    Ok, AP23. Is this a joke? Are you joking?
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  • AP23AP23
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    Me number of posts be getting higher and higher. Me ship may achieve the hundred posts today.
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  • AP23AP23
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    Ok, AP23. Is this a joke? Are you joking?


    Is what a joke?
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  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Or using the same chords and varying the accompaniment style?


    What do you mean by that?


    001 Bossa Nova
    002 New Wave Bossa Nova
    003 12 Bar Salsa Blues
    004 Dance Mix 1
    005 Dance Mix 2
    006 Technofunk
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    GM1 Grand Piano
    GM2 Rock Piano
    GM3 Electric Piano
  • AP23AP23
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    image
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  • AP23AP23
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    My seeking for a reharmonization is not a joke.
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Clearly.
  • AP23AP23
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    Adam Wood and Kathy don't have anything to offer. Anyone else know of anything?
  • Ally
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    Why don't you just search for it? (As Adam already did for you above).

    If no one here responded yet, maybe they don't have one that's free.
    I have one in a book that I paid for. Probably several.
  • AP23AP23
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    And the legalness of scanning that and sending it to me for personal home use would be...


    What's the copyright notice say? Is it copyrighted?
  • Liam
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    Let me bite with a less feline reaction to the OP:

    The general cutoff year for the public domain is . . . 1923. And you (the generic you) need to find a resource that is in the public domain in order for it to be free. Offhand, the best known *published* (as opposed to improvised or unpublished) reharmonizations of AF are still under copyright. By far the best known in the English-speaking world is by Sir David Willcocks (b 1919), but there are other fine ones, albeit less universally used.
  • AP23AP23
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    Can people give me links to where to purchase different ones, and I'll see what I can do?
  • Liam
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    That, sir/ma'am, is where Google can help you directly, if you add "sheet music" or similar terms in Boolean logic.... (PS: you can also Google images to see pdfs of arrangements that have been displayed in searchable form; a limited approach, but it sometimes helps.)
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  • AP23AP23
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    Sir.
  • Ally
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    Thank you Liam. That's why I didn't just scan it and email it.

    Here is a list of a bunch...

    Or use the Google shopping tool.

    Or here, this is one of the books I have for my piano students. It has just a "prelude" on Adeste Fideles, but maybe you'd like it for your purposes.

  • AP23AP23
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    Searching that will get you the standard normal chords. Does anyone here know what a reharmonization is? I think not.

    P.S. Can anyone tell what my new profile picture is?
  • Ally
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    Yes, I think we do know what a reharmonization is, no need for insults. I think a lot of people just write or improvise their own, though.

    Did you actually look at the links?

    Also, try searching "contemporary piano arrangement of o come all ye faithful" or something, don't just give up at one look at search results.

    I also have an organ arrangement (without pedals) by Raynor Taylor that's flashy, and has a reharmonized middle section, at least it would give you the idea of what chords to use (in a book that is copyrighted 2006).
  • AP23AP23
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    I looked at the links, those are the types of searches that turn up with normal harmonzations.

    I think I will take the time to make my own reharmonization since I can't seem to get help on that.

    Do you know what my new profile picture is?
  • ronkrisman
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    My God, it's Alex Peloquin!

    When did you get back?

    (And if it's really Alex, you don't need a reharmonization.)
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  • AP23AP23
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    ---MY 100TH POST!!---

    No, I just like Peloquin.

    ---MY 100TH POST!!---
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  • AP23AP23
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    And I just realized now that my username has his initials. I did not intend that all, my username is combined from Antiphons, Psalms, and Psalm 23.
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  • AP23AP23
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    And I'm celebrating 100 posts!
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  • Ally
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    Umm...my links included at least one book described as "jazz" arrangements of Christmas carols. That, I would wager, would not be the usual harmonization... at least it would give you other ideas.

    And yes, it usually is just easier to do your own. It would take less time than you spent on this thread.
  • WittManWilsonWittManWilson
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    I guess if the only suggestion made on this forum is "google it" to someone who is asking for assistance, then there really isn't a need for this forum, is there?
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  • Ally
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    Is that fair? The OP was pretty insistent, so pointing to where he could find the quickest results was at least SOME suggestion. And he did ask for links where he could purchase books too. St. Google can be quite helpful sometimes...

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  • Mad_Dan_EcclesMad_Dan_Eccles
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    And the legalness of scanning that and sending it to me for personal home use would be...


    Not, sorry, and I don't think that is really a fair request since it puts the other party in a tight place between coming across as a grinch or doing something illegal.

    (I don't want to step on the mods toes here, but I was a member of a technical forum many years ago where repeated requests for and offers of copyrighted materials resulted in some nasty legal letters to the service provider and the admins and the eventual closing of the site.)

    You can possibly copy it for your own personal use, but scanning it for someone else is not "personal" use. The obvious work around here is to look for what you want on line, then source the work through your local public library using the interlibrary loan service if necessary- as long as you don't copy more than a reasonable proportion of the entire book you should be good to make one copy for personal use. I am afraid that sometimes "free" can take more time than it is worth.

    In respect of the "Google it" comment I think we have several people trying to help with material where they didn't have access to what was needed and simply offered what help they could with some specific search terms. Not every question asked in here can be answered directly from personal knowledge, especially one as specific as this and I certainly don't always have the time to google things and repost the results.
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  • Liam
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    Copyright laws (which, due to aggressive legislation in the past generation, go back much farther than most people realize - and the presence or absence of a copyright notice has no bearing anymore on whether it may still be under copyright) make public sharing of sheet music virtually impossible for anything not in the public domain. The OP's question got responses that would be typical for such a situation. Future questions of that sort will likely garner similar responses. It's in the nature of the beast.
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  • Kathy
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    Antiphons, Psalms, 23,

    Is this some kind of test? Are you the copyright enforcer, trying to test our mettle? Come on now, be honest.
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  • SalieriSalieri
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    Try These:

    100 Carols for Choirs: http://www.amazon.com/100-Carols-Choirs-For-Collections/dp/0193532271/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376419255&sr=8-1&keywords=100+Carols+for+Choirs

    200 Last Verses: http://www.amazon.com/Two-Hundred-Last-Verses-Harmonies/dp/0862091896/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376419370&sr=8-1&keywords=200+Last+verses

    Christmas at King's College: http://www.amazon.com/Christmas-Kings-College-Seasonal-Anthems/dp/1849382670/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1376419445&sr=8-2&keywords=Christmas+at+King%27s+College
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  • Liam
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    Btw, Kathy's question is not snarky, but serious. Church musicians have experienced traps of that sort before, and justifiably have learned to be wary.
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  • CharlesW
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    Copyright is something we all have to be aware of, and follow. I know the greedy publishers would like it otherwise, but we are allowed to make convenience copies, and I do. Most often, I make them to avoid unnecessary page turns. Perfectly legal under the definition of convenience copies. But to scan a copyrighted work to send to someone who doesn't want to buy it would be clearly illegal.

    All the same, I think the people here do try to be helpful and not snarky, for the most part. It isn't that difficult to provide a little guidance to a request without breaking any laws.
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