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  • SalieriSalieri
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    That c****y church music didn't begin in 1971, attached is a Mass I have alluded to on the Forum before: WA Leonard's Third Mass in B-flat.

    On another Mass that I have of his there is a printed notice by the publisher "By the author of the famous Mass in B-flat". The Dona Nobis is a hoot; enjoy!
    Leonard Mass in B-flat Kyrie.pdf
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    Leonard Mass in B-flat Gloria.pdf
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    Leonard Mass in B-flat Credo.pdf
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    Leodnard Mass in B-flat Sanctus.pdf
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    Leonard Mass in B-flat Agnus.pdf
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  • Scott_WScott_W
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    Any recording of this available online? I need to get the full effect. :)
  • SalieriSalieri
    Posts: 3,177
    I actually have an LP of my choir (in 1964 ... WAAAYYYY before I was born) singing this at the Solemn Mass for their Golden Jubilee; unfortunately the Agnus and Dona Nobis were cut to make room for more Polish hymns, but the Kyrie, Gloria, Credo & Sanctus are all there. I don't know if there's any on-line, I'll see...
  • Kathy
    Posts: 5,509
    Oh gosh, you could throw 75% of the St. Gregory Hymnal in the trash and no one would cry.
  • SalieriSalieri
    Posts: 3,177
    Holy cow, I actually just found one on YouTube!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJh_Veet1IA
  • Scott_WScott_W
    Posts: 468
    I actually have an LP of my choir (in 1964 ... WAAAYYYY before I was born) singing this at the Solemn Mass for their Golden Jubilee; unfortunately the Agnus and Dona Nobis were cut to make room for more Polish hymns, but the Kyrie, Gloria, Credo & Sanctus are all there.


    Good gravvy what was the running time on all that? Did the Mass have an intermission?
  • SalieriSalieri
    Posts: 3,177
    Three Prelude hymns in Polish, Processional hymn, Asperges, (Introit cut), Kyrie, Gloria, Collect, (Epistle/Gradual/alleluia cut) Gospel, (offertory cut), Polish Hymn, Sanctus-Canon-Benedictus, Paternoster/Pax, (Agnus Dei cut) (communion cut), Polish hymns, Blessing, Dismissal, Hymn. It's actually a 2disc set three sides are the Mass and the fourth side is more hymns and Benediction.
  • chonakchonak
    Posts: 9,216
    We used to sing one of the Leonard Masses fairly often at Holy Trinity in Boston: not this one, though: one with a more bouncy, oom-pah march feel in the Kyrie. I went looking but haven't found a copy here yet.
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
    Posts: 6,482
    at Holy Trinity in Boston:

    Episcopal (on Copley)? Or the (Suppressed) (German) Catholic one in the South End?
    (Or some other one I don't know about?)
  • ronkrisman
    Posts: 1,394
    @Salieri: I think we've reached consensus at the Forum! Truly dreadful stuff, that Mass.

    This is the Mass I heard the adult (SATB) choir at my home parish sing in the 1950's. How happy I was that we elementary school kids were singing the Latin Missa de Angeles and Requiem every morning before school began!

    And this Leonard Mass seems to have been sung just about everywhere. Kinda makes one wonder why anyone would be nostalgic for pre-Vatican II days.

    BTW, the Korean Choir's rendition is much better than what I remember from my youth.
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  • chonakchonak
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    Adam, you don't really need to ask, do you? :-)

    Besides, the church in Copley Square is known as Trinity Church, not "Holy Trinity".
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Good point.
  • Andrew Motyka
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    (Introit cut)... (Epistle/Gradual/alleluia cut)... (offertory cut) ... (communion cut)...


    I've always maintained that the preconciliar Mass isn't that different from the Novus Ordo. This supports my speculation.
  • SalieriSalieri
    Posts: 3,177
    Andrew,

    Those were sung in the actual Mass; but when they pressed the records, the editors cut some of these for time, and because the people who would buy the record were more interrested in listening to Polish hymns and parts of the Mass ordinary than the Epistle and Rossini propers.
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