Tragic Worship
  • From a protestant view...Fascinating article, a must read! http://www.firstthings.com/article/2013/05/tragic-worship
  • melofluentmelofluent
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    From one Scots to our Scots/Knox/Presbyterian author, I'd say he needs to visit more Highland Games, Tattoos in Edinburgh, and modify his Calvinism with a wee dram now and then.
    And when he finally got around to funerals, he should have made some distinctions between the rites (new or old) between Catholic and modern Protestant "Celebrations of Life (even tho' we've acquired some of those traits with our "subito santo" homilies. The day I hear Louie Armstrong singing "Wonderful World" or the Hawaiian crooning of "Over the Rainbow" in a RC funeral, I will hang up my spurs. Nice of him to acknowledge the psalms of lament. Even Bob Hurd was onto that a quarter century ago.
  • francis
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    Very thought provoking, and unfortunately, why we have a "boring church", one that spawns no vocations, elicits no weighty participants and in the end, engenders no Christianity.

    The hollow administration of an impotent ecclesial body neatly takes care of itself, and the vacuum it leaves is naturally filled by those who desire holiness and worship in spirit and in truth. God sits back and laughs at the foolish. We, on the other hand, have to be the ones that endure them.
  • Prof Truemann asks

    “Why did it come about that the cinema really is often more interesting, more exciting, more human and gripping than the church?”


    According to my 13 year old it is because Mass at our local parish doesn't have nearly enough car chases or explosions. Father has so far flatly refused to even consider adding these even if they will help to get more youngsters more fully engaged.
  • 13 year olds are known for their dry wit.

    On the other hand, there are many in his grandparents' generation who would mean that quite seriously: why isn't Mass more about us and what we want. The "pastor" of this group may be arguing for more car chases and explosions, but the teenagers just aren't that stupid. (Some are mistaken, but in my 20-years of teaching I have yet to meet a stupid teen.)