Verse for Clare of Assisi
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    For those of you who keep a repository of Saint-specific verses for "By all Your Saints in Warfare" (et al)...

    All praise for Clare our sister,
    Your saint and servant true,
    Whose rule of life and order
    Still points the way to You.
    Free us, Lord, from corruption,
    fit us for Your embrace,
    and make us poor in spirit
    but rich in Love's own grace.

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    CC:BY, Adam Wood
  • matthewjmatthewj
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    Thank you kindly.
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  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Sorry, I need to amend the copyright notice...

    CC:BY, free for all except Matthew J. Meloche, who owes me a drink.
  • Kathy
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    Should it be "point" in the 4th line, to agree with the plural (rule and order?)
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    I had thought it was a rule, which guided both life and order, as opposed to a rule of life and, separate from that, an order.
  • Kathy
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    I see. I thought you were referring to the 2nd order of Franciscans.
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Ah- yes, sort of- only by pun, though.
    (cf. line 5 as well)

    Though I certainly don't mind it being edited either way.
  • Adam,

    It's good to have another saint stanza for this hymn. Thanks.

    I like the first half of your stanza (or is it technically the first verse of the stanza?!)

    On the second half, I understand the "poor in spirit" reference, but I'm curious about your inspiration for some of the other images in this half.
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    "Free us, Lord, from corruption" is a sort of play on the fact that her body was (for a time) thought to be incorruptible, along with the notion that she sought to keep her order pure (and purely Franciscan) against the (I think she would have thought) corrupting influence of prelates. The fact that she is the Patron Saint of the most corrupting of all modern technologies (the television) is an added bonus.

    The notion that being made free of corruption makes one "fit" for God's embrace is a combination of thoughts: saints which are incorruptible are only so in death (a form of God's embrace), and also (in my thinking) the whole point of salvation and grace and all that great stuff is to make us worthy to be with God, as the Old Testament says, "You shall be holy as I Am holy."

    "Rich" is, of course, a reverse of poor. I had thought- if we are to cultivate poverty of spirit, what, then, are we "rich" in? Grace, love, holiness. Etc.

    And don't underestimate the attractiveness of the easy rhyme in 6 and 8.
  • Kathy
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    While I'm on record as not caring a trifle about the meter of the first foot of a line, I wonder if lines 5 and 6 go a bit far. 2 trochees, both with "us" as the second word, and line 5 having a trochee for the second foot, too.
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  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    I'm open to suggestions.
  • Kathy
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    Lots of ways to go. Are you wedded to all the images and puns as they are? If so:

    Lord, free us from corruption,
    fit us for Your embrace,
    Thanked by 2Adam Wood CHGiffen
  • Kathy
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    Just a nip and tuck, fwiw...
  • Adam,

    Like Kathy, I was also thinking about lines 5 & 6, but for a different reason:

    The tune for "By All Your Saints Still Striving" that is printed in many recent hymnals is ST. THEODULPH (although I've also heard the text sung to KING'S LYNN, AURELIA, and ELLACOMBE).

    With that in mind, I wonder if it would be better on line 5 to have the word "free" on a strong beat rather than the word "us" (per Kathy's suggestion: "Lord, free us from corruption").

    But on the other hand... perhaps you want the word "us" to be on a strong beat, e.g., St. Clare was free of corruption, so we ask the Lord to free US as well.

    The same question might be raised about the "us" in line 6. I guess it depends on what you really want to emphasize.
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  • Kathy
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    Fr. Chepponis, you and I are actually talking about the same thing :)
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  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Are you wedded to all the images and puns as they are?

    Never, but I do think that's where the value of the text is.

    Lord, free us from corruption,
    fit us for Your embrace,


    This I like better than my original word order.

    I had copied down a handful of other saint-specific verses as a study before working on this one, and many started line 5 with some invocation like, "May we..." - so I think I just naturally put that pronoun in second syllable without thinking about it enough.

    The tune for "By All Your Saints Still Striving" that is printed in many recent hymnals is ST. THEODULPH (although I've also heard the text sung to KING'S LYNN, AURELIA, and ELLACOMBE).


    I cannot remember which tune name is which, but the only setting of this hymn I know is the one in The Hymnal 1982, so that's the one I was humming while I was writing. It strikes me that in that tune (whichever it is), the first foot of lines 5 and 6 are not extraordinarily iambic, and I have a weird trochee fetish.

    I think KP's suggestion above (which fixes 5, but allows the trochee on 6-- or, conversely, allows an accent on "us") solves the problem.

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    Aside:
    Kathy, your thoughtful critiques of my hymn work have been appreciated and inspiring for a few years now. Fr. Chepponis, I'm so very glad you have joined the fun.
    Thanked by 1CHGiffen
  • Kathy,

    How nice that we agree! (I must have misunderstood your comment.)
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  • Fr. Chepponis, I'm so very glad you have joined the fun.
    Thanks, Adam! I learn a lot from these kinds of discussions.

    Also, St. Clare is special to me for a number of reasons. Some years ago, I was commissioned to write a choir piece based on the writings of St. Clare, and I was with the group in Assisi as we premiered it at St. Clare's tomb. A very moving experience for me.

    If anyone is interested, the piece is called "The Mirror of Eternity." A snippet can be heard and viewed here:
    http://www.giamusic.com/product_search.cfm?criteria=the+mirror+of+eternity&search_button.x=0&search_button.y=0&search_button=submit
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    I learn a lot from these kinds of discussions.

    As do I.

    St. Clare is special to me for a number of reasons.


    Well- since I wrote this "on commission" (MJM, I like expensive rum), I did not have the benefit of a personal connection. I hope I "did right" by St. Clare and those with a devotion to her.
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    If anyone is interested, the piece is called "The Mirror of Eternity."


    I LIKE IT.
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    Edit: On further reflection, I really like it.
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  • chonakchonak
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    Do you think you could work her role as patroness of teevee into it?
  • Kathy
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    All praise for Claire most holy
    the patron of teevee,
    of schoolhouse rock and mad men
    and all that lies betwee...
    Thanked by 3Ben CHGiffen MHI
  • chonakchonak
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    ...
    God grant us distant vision
    to see afar His face
    and join us to His network
    of charity and grace.
    Thanked by 4Kathy Ben CHGiffen MHI
  • Kathy
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    Word.
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  • Kathy
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    Fr. Chepponis, I'm sure we agree on many things. However, having pegged me as a reactionary, you might not be ready to see this.
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    I actually was seriously considering a way to work the TV + bright/clear stuff in before reading the last several posts. Here's what I came up with as a replacement for the second half...

    Lord free us from corruption,
    and give us vision [ clear / bright ]
    to see your distant something
    and something something [ near / here / fear || light / sight ]

    It's a work in progress

    (ok i know that looks silly, but that's basically a representation of how my brain is working as I work through this sort of thing)

    If anyone wants to run with it, feel free.
  • Kathy
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    or maybe put sight at the end of the 2nd line here (6th line of the stanza or verse or collection of verses)
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Lord free us from corruption
    and give us perfect sight
    to see and serve your people
    and walk in grace's light.

    hrm... not great... and all notion of poverty is lost....
  • MHIMHI
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  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Well, you know- I could write a WHOLE HYMN for St. Clare, but I was just asked for a single verse stanza...
  • Kathy
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    All praise for Claire, bright shining.
    When we were in a fix.
    She drove the heathen backwards
    by carrying a pyx...
  • matthewjmatthewj
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    If you want to write a whole hymn, I'd gladly steal that also.
  • mrcoppermrcopper
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    I don't know why but your words reminded me of this old text by Edward Plumptre:

    Thine arm, O Lord, in days of old, was strong to heal and save;
    It triumphed o’er disease and death, o’er darkness and the grave.
    To Thee they went, the blind, the dumb, the palsied and the lame,
    The leper with his tainted life, the sick with fevered frame.

    And lo! Thy touch brought life and health, gave speech, and strength and sight;
    And youth renewed and fear relieved owned Thee, the Lord of light;
    And now, O Lord, be near to bless, Almighty as of yore,
    In crowded street, by restless couch, as by Gennesaret’s shore.

    Be Thou our great Deliverer still, Thou Lord of life and death;
    Restore and quicken, soothe and bless, with Thine almighty breath.
    To hands that work and eyes that see, give wisdom’s heavenly lore,
    That whole and sick, and weak and strong, may praise Thee evermore.
    Thanked by 1CHGiffen
  • chonakchonak
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    Well, I did like that "distant vision" = tele-vision.
  • chonakchonak
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    (appending to Kathy's lines:)

    ...as she upheld the Savior,
    His glance o'ertook the mean,
    but may it bring us favor
    and faith in Him unseen.
  • MHIMHI
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