ASPERGES ME: Is it used in the Novus Ordo Mass ?
  • RagueneauRagueneau
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    FROM ICEL

    These two antiphons are in the Missal in Appendix II (Rite for the Blessing and Sprinkling of Water) for use Outside Easter Season. They have not been changed recently. ICEL did not do a musical setting of either since the texts do not appear with chant in the Missal.

    Antiphon 1 • Ps 50: 9
    Sprinkle me with hyssop, O Lord, and I shall be cleansed; wash me and I shall be whiter than snow.

    Antiphon 2 • Ez 36: 25-26
    I will pour clean water upon you, and you will be made clean of all your impurities, and I shall give you a new spirit, says the Lord.

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  • chonakchonak
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    Appendix II of the 2002 Missale has the rite of sprinkling blessed water, including the Asperges.
  • Mark P.
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    It takes the place of the Penetential Rite in the Novus Ordo. After the Entrance Rite (including incensation) and greeting, the celebrant prays over the water and then sprinkles the congregation with it. On Sundays without a Gloria, the Opening Prayer (Collect) then is proclaimed. For Sundays when the Gloria is sung, a prayer proceeds the Gloria and concludes the Sprinkling Rite.
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  • RagueneauRagueneau
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    OK, awesome. Can anyone provide the new ICEL text for this? THANKS!
  • RagueneauRagueneau
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    Also, can someone provide what the ROMAN MISSAL APPENDIX II says about the Sprinkling Rite? What chant is prescribed, if any? Kyrie? Asperges? Suitable chant?
  • chonakchonak
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    I have it in Latin; but you want the English, right?
  • RagueneauRagueneau
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    chonak, not just any English, but the NEW ICEL version.
  • If I didn't misunderstand him, Aristotle Esguerra told me that ICEL had declined to make a musical setting of the Asperges, which is rather sad. I don't know how to access the new ICEL English text of it either, since, to my knowledge, the full text is not yet available.
  • chonakchonak
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    Let us know if you get any tips; I haven't been able to locate it via search engines. Also, the "Grey Book" or "White Book" PDFs released don't contain it (and they wouldn't be 100% reliable anyway). If all else fails, I suppose you might ask any officials of ICEL whom you happen to know.
  • Mark P.
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    The lame duck version of the Sacramentary says about the chant to be sung during the sprinkling: "Meanwhile, an antiphon or another appropriate song is sung."

    I know this isn't helpful but the good news (for me) is that I found my favorite choral recessional when I opened the Sacramentary: "Blest Creator of the Light" by Richard Keys Biggs.
  • newmanbenewmanbe
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    By Flowing Waters has this, which I imagine to be straight from the NRSV:

    Lord, cleanse me from my sin, and I will be purer than gushing water; Lord, scour and purge me and I shall be brighter than snow.


    There may not be an official translation; it is just a psalm verse.
  • Paul F. Ford
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    Lord, cleanse me from my sin, and I will be purer than gushing water; Lord, scour and purge me and I shall be brighter than snow.

    Is my translation. It was approved for liturgical use by the USCCB/BCDW [then BCL] on July 2, 2003.
  • RagueneauRagueneau
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    FROM ICEL

    These two antiphons are in the Missal in Appendix II (Rite for the Blessing and Sprinkling of Water) for use Outside Eastertime. They have not been changed recently. ICEL did not do a musical setting of either since the texts do not appear with chant in the Missal.

    Antiphon 1

    Ps 50: 9
    Sprinkle me with hyssop, O Lord, and I shall be cleansed; wash me and I shall be whiter than snow.

    Antiphon 2 Ez 36: 25-26

    I will pour clean water upon you, and you will be made clean of all your impurities, and I shall give you a new spirit, says the Lord.
  • CharlesW
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    As a practical matter, the only time I ever see that sprinkling rite is during Easter. Does anyone else ever see it done at other times?
  • MarkThompson
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    I don't know what that "authoritative answer" is talking about -- the Asperges Me most certainly is in the 3rd edition of the Missal (I guess 2008 is the editio typica tertia emendata? I'm looking at the 2002, but they obviously didn't strip it out). Maybe he just means that there was no musical setting in the Latin missale, which is true.

    As to the English translation, it was definitely in the "2008 missal" which has been going around for some time, located right in Appendix II where you would expect. I don't know whether it's been revised since then, but that version had:

    Antiphon 1
    Sprinkle me with hyssop, O Lord, and I shall be cleansed;
    wash me and I shall be whiter than snow.

    Antiphon 2
    I will pour clean water upon you,
    and you will be made clean of all your impurities,
    and I shall give you a new spirit, says the Lord.
  • chonakchonak
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    There's a 2008 Missale Romanum? I feel so behind the times.

    Fr. Z. wrote about it in 2009.

    It's billed as correcting spelling errors and minor omissions in the 2002 -- but JMO is told that the Asperges me is not in the 2008. Does that mean we need a 2012 edition to correct that omission?
  • Mark P.
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    "As a practical matter, the only time I ever see that sprinkling rite is during Easter. Does anyone else ever see it done at other times?"

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  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    You mean you can't just sing "Wade in the Water?"
  • gregpgregp
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    We have it every Sunday, but that's in the EF.
  • RagueneauRagueneau
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    ACTUALLY, IN LIGHT OF MARK THOMPSON'S ANSWER, ICEL IS GETTING BACK TO ME.

    THE FELLOW I SPOKE TO DID NOT HAVE HIS NOTES IN FRONT OF HIM, AND FEARS HE (PERHAPS) MADE A MISTAKE.
  • RagueneauRagueneau
    Posts: 2,592
    FROM ICEL

    These two antiphons are in the Missal in Appendix II (Rite for the Blessing and Sprinkling of Water) for use Outside Eastertime. They have not been changed recently. ICEL did not do a musical setting of either since the texts do not appear with chant in the Missal.

    Antiphon 1

    Ps 50: 9
    Sprinkle me with hyssop, O Lord, and I shall be cleansed; wash me and I shall be whiter than snow.

    Antiphon 2 Ez 36: 25-26

    I will pour clean water upon you, and you will be made clean of all your impurities, and I shall give you a new spirit, says the Lord.
  • Jeffrey TuckerJeffrey Tucker
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    Yes, this is what I had heard too. Pity.

    And yet: I don't think that the Vidi appears with music and yet it is in the Eng Missal.
  • I don't think I've seen one by Fr. Weber or Fr. Columba.
  • chonakchonak
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    Well, here's a draft, trying to adapt the authentic melody to the English text:
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    For folks wishing to modify this in Gregorio, here's the code:

    name: Asperges me;
    annotation: VII;
    centering-scheme: english;
    %%
    (c2)SPrin(c)kle(d) me(fe) with(f) hys(gh)sop,(g.) (,) O(hiwj) Lord,(ji) (,) and(hg) I(h) shall(g_f) be(de) clean(c_d_c_)sèd;(c.) (:)
    wash(cd/fe/ff) me(g.) (;)
    and(ghwivHG) I(fe) shall(df) be(ef) whi(gvF)ter(de) than(dd) snow.(c.) (::)
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  • janetgorbitzjanetgorbitz
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    Thanks, Richard!
  • RagueneauRagueneau
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    Just FYI,

    The VIDI has music in the new ICEL Missal.

    Also, Fr. Samuel Weber is including several brilliant settings of the ASPERGES ME in the Vatican II Hymnal, which will be released in a 2-3 weeks.
  • I gave it a try out of necessity.
  • CharlesW
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    To actually use this requires the cooperation of the priest. If the priest doesn't do sprinkling except at Easter, it's a bit difficult to slip this one into the mass. I suppose that if one wants this every Sunday, one would have to attend an EF mass.
  • hartleymartin
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    Vidi Aquam is used during Eastertide, Asperges Me for the rest of the liturgical year.

    The antiphon and verse are both from Psalm 50, I believe.

    The Simple Choral Gradual has a setting of it.

    I'll be using a setting by Joseph Gruber (d. 1933) for a confirmation mass to be held in a few weeks time.

    Take note, you are meant to repeat the first page (Asperges Me, etc) at the end of the Gloria Patri.
  • You know, you can do just about anything at a Novus Ordo... :)
  • Except the Dies Irae during a requiem.