The live video feed starts today Wed May 26 at 1:30 pm Pacific Time.

Any timestamp estimates for Offertory and Agnus Dei ?

I just cannot believe anybody still likes this music...I've said it before, and I'll say it again, besides this music not being suitable for the Liturgy, I just feel like a tool when I'm singing "All Are Welcome" or any related piece.

wow! the becker litany! at a major cathedral!
im so underwhelmed my teeth may fall out.

Here's the problem -

Either by design or not, the newer bishops being appointed are sufficiently "conservative", but in a "pastoral" way ... I.E., I have my opinions and I will make them known, but don't worry, I won't force them on you.

Go read what the whispers in the loggia blogger says about the coadjutor regarding how people in LA who were worried need not fear, he's not one to come in and make sweeping changes.

I appreciated the Latin, but it felt a bit lost amongst all the other languages. The multiculturalism message comes out 100 times stronger than the messages of unity.

I was hoping they would actually do the Agnus Dei as simple chant, but then no.... We need it interspersed with multiple translations.

Oh. My. God. One Bread, One Body done as a Bill Murray Saturday Night Live skit. Are we still in Mass, or did my browser switch over to YouTube?

I'm not watching it. I hope that 'some Asian language' wasn't Korean. I'll be truly embarrassed. Is this what 'inculturation' mean? I would really appreciate if people whoever is, keep my beautiful culture out of being a tool of this embarrassing distraction. There are plenty of other places where Asians can share our culture and be more appreciated.

Oh, no.
Koreans are usually shy and polite to say 'no' when someone invite us to do something. (my last defense for my folks). I want you to know that we don't usually demand 'things' in this country or churches. Koreans work very hard, and the parents do their best in educating their children both American and Korean cultures. You might have noticed, depend on where you are, that there are many many Korean schools, churches (as well as Korean groceries, which have books and other Korean things, also the martial art studios! where students, regardless of their races, learn to respect and count in Korean.).
We do our best to keep our culture without troubling this country nor the churches, for which we have great respect.
But I admit that there are embassassing moments, and they stand out.
Surely I don't want to see Koreans take part in this sort of 'inculturation.'

This is very disturbing, especially the communion song. The Durufle sounded like a funeral dirge, and... did I hear piano accompaniment? What a sad state of affairs. It's like someone turned back the clock to 1983. Who's asleep at the wheel?

OK, here's a list of highlights (such as they are) from the recording:

00:10 Entrance procession begins
00:17 Procession continues with Becker litany, ending at 00:26.
00:27 The Mass begins. Opening remarks by Cdl. Mahony.
00:33:30 Penitential rite: spoken invocations with sung "Kyrie eleison", imitating Becker;
"Glory to God" (Jones, arr. Walker)
00:41:30 In place of a psalm: "Shepherd Me, O God" (Haugen), in English and Spanish.
00:50 Gospel procession, with an Alleluia roughly in the style of the show "Sabado Gigante".
Gospel and homily.
01:18 The papal mandate is read and shown.
01:24 The Cardinal seeks the assent of the people and welcomes the Archbishop.
Song: "This is the day the Lord has made" (an up-tempo song somewhat in Black Gospel style).
01:26:30 General Intercessions
01:31:30 Durufle, Ubi caritas, with a segue into "As your holy place" (bilingual: Vietnamese/English),
then a combination of the two, running all the way to 01:44!
01:45 Preface dialogue -- spoken!
01:46 "Holy"
01:49 Consecration
01:50:30 Acclamation: "Dying you destroyed our death"
01:54 Amen.
01:54:30 Our Father - spoken
01:54:45 Agnus Dei XVIII, mashed up with some other melodies
01:59 First communion song: "Behold the Body of Christ/Ang Katawan ni Kristo" (Manalo)
02:03 Mariachi-style song ("Tu eres el pan de vida"?)
02:06 "One Bread One Body" a la SNL, ending at 02:13.
02:34 Recessional hymn: "God, we praise you" (NETTLETON, text by Idle)
02:37:30 Widor: Toccata from Symphony No. 5

Note: To advance through the recording, or to rewind slightly: each "right-arrow" shifts the recording five seconds.

Well, here's a clip so that people who know can check.

What a bizarre version of the Becker Litany! Only two saints per line, instead of the three that are usually crammed in, and quite a few who seemed to be left out, but an absolute ton of randoms thrown in in no discernible order (I'm guessing to hit each country that matters). On the plus side, no Origen!

Finally I got to hear it. It's not Korean. It's very strange to me that there are high population of Koreans in LA, I didn't even see a Korean traditional costume even in that strange procession of carrying banners. (what are those banners anyway?) Maybe God spare Koreans from this 'inculturation' show? That 'mysterious song of the girl' remains as some Asian song to many. I guess that's good enough to know?
This is one of the worst example of misguided Liturgy I heard of and controlled by individuals, and not obeying the Church's instructions. "WE" in LA are represnedted as spoiled children with ignorant guidances.

Why would anyone assume that Abp Gomez did not approve the program? That's bizarre.

Here's a blog thingie I wrote last year after the Holy Father's apostolic journey to Africa:

Whenever you see a picture of Pope Benedict talking to people, he's got this shy smile thing going on. And yet, he's brilliant, and although welcoming of people, he's ruthless about ideas. Regarding liturgy he can see nonsense claims coming from miles away--and then he devastates them.

A lot of electronic ink has been spilled over the Pope's recent plane ride TO Africa, mostly because his remarks had something to do with sex. But his remarks on the way back FROM Africa were much more dramatic. As I read them, I thought I heard the echoes of the old Bat Man comics' fight scenes.

Speaking of the Masses he celebrated in Cameroon and Angola, the Pope said,
"[I was] moved by the spirit of meditative absorption *POW!*
in liturgy, the powerful sense of the sacred *BIFF!*;
in the liturgies there was no self-presentation *BANG!*
of groups, no self-animation, *ZAP!*
but the presence of the sacred, of God Himself; even the movements were always movements of respect and awareness of the divine presence. *KAPOW!*

This multi-whammie, smiling pre-emptive measure undermines all future attempts to point to the African liturgies as a positive example of the multi-cultural fad in liturgy. Yet another ephemeral wave in the endless cycles of fads that have mainstreamed since the last Council, multiculturalism (like all the others) effectively downgrades the liturgy from the most intimate possible sharing of heavenly and earthly realities available to us on earth, to an anthropological celebration.

The most astonishingly candid expressions of the superficiality of multiculturalist liturgy are the various Dancing Puppet Liturgies, in which non-human, non-animate artifacts are dressed up to represent various colors and genders--which then "participate" in the liturgy.

I'm sure that we can all see the difference between Africans dancing at Mass vs. midwesterners, and their puppets, dancing at Mass. Yes? But the Pope wisely made a very public and clear distinction.

It's not wrong to express ourselves in the liturgy. But we must express ourselves liturgically, and in Christ. We are at Mass to open ourselves to God and to come into direct, real contact with the Father through Him--never losing the "sense of the sacred" and the "respect and awareness of the divine presence."

cardinal mahoney was a walking scandal, and i am so glad he was finally replaced. this is great news for the church.

G, Palmo is referring to himself (the scribe) from Philadelphia, the realm of the Pharoah (Cardinal Rigali).

I'm enormously happy I didn't see this.

The mysterious "multi-cultural" liturgy pleases no one except its organizers. It is a constant reminder of differences at a moment when differences should be transcended. Not only is the multiplicity of languages jarring; it's the salad bowl of musical styles. These are Masses where the music sounds as though it was selected by an iPod on "shuffle."

A couple of evenings ago, I played for a funeral at a church famed for its friendliness and informality. The deceased was a pillar of the parish, of the Knights of Columbus, and retired military. We had a homily that was a eulogy and then two more eulogies. The music was our area's funeral standards minus Amazing Grace.

The Air Force sent a two-member honor guard to fold and present the flag. Performed with reverence, solemnity, and grace by two young men, that ceremony showed what a ceremony should be. That flag meant something - and something that merited absolute attention to detail.

All the shuffling around, hand-holding, and "Softly and Tenderly" during the Mass was a thought-provoking contrast. (Well, it was thought-provoking for me.) If the Mass is "the source and summit of the Christian life," as we hear regularly, then doesn't it deserve the best, the attention, the care? And if we really don't think it's that important, why bother? Even puppets won't help.

Agreed mjballou! Even though it's interesting to hear your native tongue at a mass, it's quite presumptuous to in a sense,to force people to accept their brand of multiculturalism. If I were say a Japanese or a Kenyan, there's a part of me that would be a little irked that MY language didn't get included...and that logic could go on ad infinitum. That's why we should all resort to Latin, and not the token Latin "gesture" which this (and most masses during Lent) attempted to offer...what kind of joke was that? We are ROMAN Catholic, we celebrate the LATIN Rite, it's not a Latin-inspired Vietnamese Church, or a Latin-inspired English Church, etc...it has been and will always be the Latin Rite.

Anyways, I also found it condescending coming from a non-English background.... no one else but the handful of Vietnamese could have understood what was said, and in the end, it seems it was not memorable...so why bother? Usually, such well-intentioned attempts end up being rushed and "put-together" and while such actions expose people to another language it doesn't immerse them in it and thus does not allow for a deeper appreciation-- which was the original intent.

Thanks for the local info, Prof. Ford!

It's very strange to me that there are high population of Koreans in LA, I didn't even see a Korean traditional costume even in that strange procession of carrying banners.

This is what happens when one tries to be "inclusive": you end up being exclusive. Every congregation is as diverse as the number of people in it. No two people are exactly alike, and it's impossible to represent each individual person's myriad differences. We should be concentrating on the way in which we are all the same, not how certain groups share the same differences. That is division, not unity.

No sarcasm was intended regarding your statement about the Offertory, Paul. My deepest apology for giving that impression. And I meant no disrespect to your advisory duties for this liturgy, tho' the term "shot-callers" could, indeed be taken as derogatory.
I just pondered aloud, in haste as well, the notion of choices based upon popularity. I absolutely understand that there may be a galaxy of issues at play when crafting the liturgical events and responsibilities for a Mass that "the whole world is watching." And you know that we deal with these issues in the Central Valley as well, even at the parish level. And I can appreciate the necessity and expedience of well-intentioned decisions to be inclusive, as Incantu mentions. But, I really was serious in my pondering about the notion of "well-known" or popular. To be honest, as you did ask, that aspect does not play but a minute role in my own practice.
But I am heartily sorry to have given offense. And I hope you accept this apology.

I think the foundation of those really do adore these hodge-podge liturgies is the fact that the "tradition" of the Church is a very European (and perhaps Italian) tradition. They ask themselves why should ancient Italian manners and music continue to dominate today. Until we come up with a more convincing (note I did not say "better") reason than "the Church tells us so". The entire hierarchy of the Church is based on the Roman governmental model, anyway. These folks think that it is time for other cultures to have a say. Maybe this is a fair attitude, but I agree that multicultural liturgies only serve the multi-cultured. We may lament the old days when each ethnic group had its own parish(es), but I think that this situation worked much better. 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants eventually moved on and integrated. In our current situation we try to mix congregations at big events and Holy Thursday. Although I would love to have Latin as the common language, it just generates the response, "oh, yeah, then NO one will understand the Mass."

And even if you do not understand the meaning of the words, for the time being teach your mouth to say them, for the tongue is sanctified by the words alone whenever it says them with good will.
—St. John Chrysostom, On Psalm 41:2, (PG 55:158)

Virtually all know the words of this psalm and they continue to sing it at every age, without knowing, however, the sense of what has been said. This is not a small charge, to sing something every day, putting forth words from the mouth, without searching out the meaning of the thoughts residing in the words.
—St. John Chrysostom, On Psalm 140, (PG 55:426-7)