Holy week 2023
  • tomjaw
    Posts: 2,782
    Palm Sunday 2023
    Two sets of Male cantors for the Propers and one set of Lady Cantrix? for the Ordinary.
    8 men, 6 ladies and 4 children in the choir. 18 servers on the sanctuary all but one under 17 years old

    Blessing of Palms (all Chant sung in full according to the G.R. 1924)
    Asperges mode 7
    ANT. Hosanna filio David.
    GRAD. In Monte Oliveti.
    SANTUS. XVIII
    ANT. Pueri Hebraeorum The two chant versions were repeated 3 times.
    ANT. Pueri Hebraeorum (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)
    ANT. Pueri Hebraeorum (Tomás Luis de Victoria)
    ANT. Pueri Hebraeorum (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)
    ANT. Pueri Hebraeorum (Tomás Luis de Victoria)
    ANT. Cum audisset
    ANT. Ante sex dies
    ANT. Occurrunt turbae.
    HYMN. Gloria Laus.
    RESP. Ingrediente.

    Mass
    INT. Domine ne longe.
    KYR. XVII first version
    GRAD. Tenuisti.
    TRACT. Deus deus. (alternated Cantors 1, choir, Cantors 2 etc.)
    PASSION. Victoria setting
    GOSPEL. Solemn ancient tone
    CREDO. I
    OFF. Improperium
    OFF. Hymn Magnum Salutis Gaudium
    SAN. XVII
    AGNUS. XVII
    COM. Crux fidelis compline hymn from 16th c. Salzinnes Antiphonal
    COM. Pater si, Chant setting alternated with the Isaac polyphonic setting, with psalm verses.
    BENE. XVII first version
    Domine Salvum fac (Tonus regalis)
    Marian Anthem. Ave Regina Caelorum De la Rue.

    A big thank you to CPDL for providing the sheet music for the polyphony.
    Thanked by 2PaxTecum OMagnumMysterium
  • Richard MixRichard Mix
    Posts: 2,798
    St David of Wales, Richmond California
    Palm Sunday 11:00
    Hosanna to the Son of David
    Processional: All Glory, laud and honor VALET WILL ICH DIR GEBEN
    Resp: My God, my God (Parish Book of Psalms)
    Grad: Christ became obedient (American Gradual)
    Passion according to Matthew (short form) Victoria
    Off. Praise to you, O Christ Heinrich Schütz (Mathaeuspassion)
    Sanctus & Agnus XI
    Comm: Pater si non potest (American Gradual), followed by O sacred Head

    Spy Wednesday 7:30
    Lassus 3 Lamentations 4vv, with Responsories by [admirer of] Palestrina

    Holy Thursday 7:00 multilingual Mass
    Un quarto para mi/Prepare a room for me DIADEMATA
    Kyrie & Gloria from Schubert Deutsche Messe
    Mandatum antiphons in alternating languages
    Off: Ubi caritas (Oremos cantando)
    Sanctus & Agnus XVIII
    Comm: Hoc corpus (American Gradual)
    Weave a song/Canta lengua (Tantum Ergo/Genitori in in Latin)

    Good Friday 13:00
    Resp: Father into your hands (Parish Book of Psalms)
    Grad: Christ became obedient (American Gradual)
    Passion according to John Victoria
    Off: O Sacred Head
    Reproaches Victoria (probably followed by) Crux fidelis
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  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
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    Of note:
    This morning the choir sang Victoria's Unus ex discipulis meis, after the Communion antiphon. It wasn't flawless, but it was very good. From my perspective, it's rewarding to see the choir blossom in such a short time. They've risen to every challenge I've set them, polyphonically.

    Later this week the gentlemen of the choir will sing Feroci'sDextera Domini, and the ladies will sing Rick Wheeler (ed)'s Sicut Cervus for two voices.
    Thanked by 2rich_enough tomjaw
  • PaxTecum
    Posts: 314
    Palm Sunday
    Hosanna Filio David (Victoria from pueri Hebraeorum)
    Gregorian propers in Latin (introit, communion)
    Psalm: Schmitt
    Offertory: Mueller SATB
    Communion: A Holy Jesus
    Communion: O Jesu Christe (Jachet de Mantua)
    Ave Regina Caelorum
    O Sacred Head Surrounded

    Holy Thursday
    Gregorian Propers (introit, offertory, communion)
    Kyrie: Byrd for 3
    Gloria: De Angelis
    Psalm: Schmitt
    Sanctus: Mass XVII (hosannas from Byrd for 3)
    Agnus: Mass XVII
    Communion: Ave Verum Corpus (Viadana) ATTB
    Communion: Verbum Supernum Prodiens (chant)
    Procession: Pange Lingua (chant)
    Tantum Ergo (chant)

    Good Friday
    Psalm: Schmitt
    Chanted passion (turba chanted by Synagogus)
    Adoration: Victoria Improperia in English
    Crux Fidelis (ICEL chant)
    Communion: Psalm 22

    Not done with the rest yet lol
    Thanked by 2rich_enough tomjaw
  • rich_enough
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    Sts. Cyril and Methodius Oratory, Bridgeport, Connecticut (ICKSP)

    Palm Sunday
    Blessing of Palms and Procession - as in Graduale Romanum
    Mass
    Proper chants: Domine ne longe
    Mass XVII, Credo I
    Offertory: Ave rex noster - Antonio Cifra
    Communion: In nomine Jesu - Jacob Handl (for SATB)
    Adoramus te, Christe - Theodore Dubios (with children's schola)
    O Jesu Christe - Jacquet of Mantua
    hymn: O Sacred Head Surrounded

    Holy Thursday
    Proper chants: Nos autem gloriari
    Missa brevis - Andrea Gabrieli; Credo III
    Offertory: Christus factus est - Martin Villanueva
    Communion: Ave verum corpus - William Byrd
    Hoc corpus - Melchor Robledo
    Procession:Pange lingua - Palestrina (alternatim with chant, from Richard Terry's Music for Holy Week, pp. 14-15)

    Good Friday
    Tracts: Domine audivi, Eripe me, Domine
    Popule meus - Victoria
    antuphon: Crucem tuam
    hymn: Crux fidelis - chant
    Vexilla regis - Antoine Brumel (his "O Crux Ave" set to the other verses of the hymn, alternating with chant)
    Thanked by 3PaxTecum tomjaw OMagnumMysterium
  • Caleferink
    Posts: 434
    St. Mary's, Tampa

    Palm Sunday
    Hosanna filio David (chant)
    Laudes Regiae and All Glory, Laud, and Honor for procession
    Psalm 22 - my transcription/adaptation into English of Marco Frisina's version sung at the Vatican for many years
    Offertory: Improperium (Robinson)
    Communion: Father, If This Cup May Not Pass (Nestor)
    Final Hymn: Were You There

    Holy Thursday
    Nos autem - Tietze text, but set to WAREHEM
    Kyrie XVI
    Congregational Mass Gloria (Lee)
    Psalm 116 - Batastini/Guimont
    Mandatum (Latona)
    Offertory: Where True Charity and Love Dwell (Saunders) + Ubi caritas (Taizé)
    Communion: Hoc corpus (chant), Eat This Bread (Taizé), & In monte oliveti (Garau)
    Pange lingua/Tantum ergo (chant)

    Good Friday
    Psalm 31 - Guimont
    Crucem tuam - Taizé
    Reproaches - Kiolbassa
    Crux fidelis - Latona
    Communion: Jesus, Remember Me (Taizé) + Were You There
  • btodorovich87
    Posts: 101
    St. Vincent de Paul, Elkhart, IN

    Palm Sunday
    Hosanna filio David (chant)
    Hosanna (Taize) for processions
    All Glory, Laud and Honor
    Psalm: Guimont
    Gospel Acc: Peter Latona
    passions chanted according to the red GIA book, with über-simple turba choruses arranged by yours truly
    Offertory proper: Lalemont
    Ride On, Ride On in Majesty (TRURO)
    When Jesus Wept (arr. Custer)
    Jubilate Deo Euch Accs
    Communion proper: Source and Summit
    God so loved the world (Stainer)
    Recessional: O Sacred Head Surrounded

    Holy Thursday
    Introit: Source and Summit
    Kyrie XVI
    Gloria VIII with polyphony from "Mass of the Transfiguration" (Gouin)
    Psalm: Spanish, Meinrad mode 8
    Gospel Acc; Peter Latona
    Mandatum (Latona)
    Ubi caritas (Ola Gjeilo)
    Jublilate Deo Euch Accs
    Communion proper: Royce Nickel (GS)
    Ave verum corpus (Byrd)
    Pange lingua

    Good Friday
    Psalm: Fr. Weber
    Gospel Acc: Latona
    Passion: red GIA chant book and Victoria
    Veneration: Crucem tuam (chant)
    Faithful Cross (Leo Nestor)
    Reproaches (arr. Thatcher)
    O Sacred Head Surrounded
    Communion: Source and Summit
  • Liam
    Posts: 5,092
    Programs for the liturgies at Boston's Cathedral of The Holy Cross for today through the Easter Vigil may be found at this link:

    http://holycrossboston.com/
  • PaxTecum
    Posts: 314
    Easter Vigil:
    All gregorian graduals/tracts/canticles (for 6/7 readings)
    Sicut Cervus / Sitivit - Palestrina
    Gloria - Missa de Angelis
    Alleluia confitemini Domino
    Litany of the Saints in english
    Vidi Aquam
    Offertory proper in latin
    Offertory: This Joyful Eastertide SATB
    Sanctus/Benedictus: Missa i begli occhi (Aichinger) a 5
    Mortem Tuam / Amen
    Agnus Dei: Missa i begli occhi (Aichinger) a 5
    Communion: proper in latin
    Communion: Christ the Lord is Risen Today (VICTIMAE PASCHALI)
    Communion: Surrexit Pastor Bonus (Lassus) a 5
    Regina Caeli (simple tone)
    Jesus Christ is Risen Today (EASTER HYMN)

    This Mass will be sung by the parish's relatively new men's schola (who will sing all of the chants) and the professional schola (who will sing the polyphony and everything else).



    Thanked by 2rich_enough tomjaw
  • tomjaw
    Posts: 2,782
    Maundy Thursday
    Tenebrae (Anticipated on Wednesday evening)
    All sung in full from the Festa Majora, 1925 / Liber Usualis 1945.
    We had two sets of cantors, 5 men in choir singing the Lamentations, Lessons, Antiphons, Responsories and Psalms. This took 2½ hours this evening.

    Mass of Maundy Thursday, 5.30pm
    All Chant sung from the Gradual Romanum 1924
    INT.: Nos Autem, Issac
    KYRIE: Byrd 3 part Mass
    GLORIA: Byrd 3 part Mass
    GRAD.: Christus factus est, Anerio
    CREDO: Byrd 3 part Mass
    OFF.: Dextera Domine, Palestrina
    SAN.: Byrd 3 part Mass
    BEN.: Byrd 3 part Mass
    AGN.: Byrd 3 part Mass
    COMM: Dominus Jesus, Chant
    COM. motet: O Sacrum Convivium, Kevin Allen
    COM. motet: Ave Verum, Byrd 4v.
    Pange Lingua gloriosi, Mis. atrib. Palestrina

    Followed by Vespers
    Thanked by 1OMagnumMysterium
  • CatholicZ09
    Posts: 284
    St. Paul Cathedral; Pittsburgh, PA

    Link to worship booklet that contains the music for the Triduum and Sunday of Divine Mercy:

    https://files.ecatholic.com/22378/documents/2023/4/2023 Easter Booklet.pdf?t=1680783531000


  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
    Posts: 6,902
    CatholicZ09,

    I'm not anywhere near Pittsburgh, so this may be an ignorant question:

    Is the choice to include O Sacred Heart and Were you there the result of a dedication to a wide variety of music, to cognitive dissonance, to instructions from a liturgy committee, a respecting of long-standing custom or something else?
  • CatholicZ09
    Posts: 284
    Chris,

    I am not the M.D. at the Cathedral, but I can answer this partially. The Cathedral has done these two hymns, to my knowledge, on Good Friday, for quite some time. I’ve gone to Triduum services there for several years, and “O Sacred Head, Surrounded” has always been sung at the Collection for the Holy Land, and “Were You There” has always been one of the pieces of music used during the Adoration of the Holy Cross. That seems to be the tradition there.

    St. Paul Cathedral uses a wide variety of music for its liturgical celebrations. This seems to be par for the course in many Catholic parishes within Pittsburgh, even my own.
    Thanked by 2CHGiffen Chris Garton-Zavesky
  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
    Posts: 6,902
    Follow up questions:

    During the Veneration of the Cross, is the idea to call attention to the question "Were you there?" (to which the answer is "no"), or to call attention to the suffering of Christ (which is the part of each of those verse people usually smudge)?

    I wonder what the connection is between the collection for the Holy Land and Bach's passion chorale, originally. There's a history of the German/Slavic population in that part of the state, isn't there?
  • CatholicZ09
    Posts: 284
    “Were You There” is one of those hymns that I think people just do not because it’s particularly great, but it’s only once a year, and the people sing it. I’ve been to numerous parishes around Pittsburgh for Good Friday service, and this hymn is always sung with gusto wherever I go.

    Haven’t really thought about the connection with Bach’s Passion Chorale. We have a great mix of nationalities here, though!
    Thanked by 2Chris Garton-Zavesky LauraKaz
  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
    Posts: 6,902
    Dextera Domini went well.
  • Liam
    Posts: 5,092
    (to which the answer is "no")

    Although for Catholic, Orthodox and Oriental Christians, the answer is . . . yes, in a metaphysical dimension, through the sacramental zikkaron/anamnesis of the entire Paschal Mystery in the Divine Liturgy.
  • PaxMelodious
    Posts: 442
    What is the problem with using “O Sacred Head, Surrounded” on Good Friday?
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  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
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    Liam,

    Is your response on the wrong thread?

    Pax,

    I meant to draw a contrast between "O Sacred Head" and "Were you there" One is (at least) high craft while the other is (self-consciously) mediocre, at least if its origin stories are to be accepted.

    On the other hand, neither Bach nor the author(s?) of the Negro spiritual was Catholic.

  • PolskaPiano
    Posts: 255
    It is not possible to do Propers at my parish (unfortunately) so I try very hard to find good and dignified music- in the spirit of the Propers.
    I found a new piece from a local composer that was very effective. The organ is lovely. I had a cantor sing the verses and the choir come in on the refrain. It was effective and better than the options in our Gather hymnal.
    We are lucky to have a local (Calvinist) college nearby that puts a high value on good music. This college also runs (or sponsors?) Hymnary.com.

    https://www.giamusic.com/store/resource/do-this-in-remembrance-of-me-print-g8693
  • CatholicZ09
    Posts: 284
    Polska,

    My home parish’s choir does that piece every Holy Thursday. I really do enjoy it, and yes, it’s much better than what else is offered by GIA/OCP.
  • davido
    Posts: 942
    Chris, O Sacred head is from a Catholic Latin poem (mis-)attributed to St Bernard. So there’s that.

    What bothers me is substituting other things for the ritual texts/melodies. The Allegri is beautiful and moving, but so are numerous settings of the Reproaches.
    “Where you there” maybe be a once a year thing, but so is “Faithful cross” and people would sing it if they knew it. Because the latter is distinctively Catholic with a meter that goes back to the time of Roman legionnaires, and a melody perhaps as old.

    The old argument is that people need to participate and it’s not pastoral to program music they don’t know.

    But the truth is, it is not pastoral to sub in alternate pieces for the texts and melodies called for by the liturgy. The faithful get deprived of the liturgy which is their birthright as baptized Catholics.
    Thanked by 3ServiamScores a_f_hawkins LauraKaz
  • Richard MixRichard Mix
    Posts: 2,798
    [Bach not Catholic]

    I question I got asked a lot in Indonesia is "Are you Christian, or are you Catholic?"
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  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
    Posts: 6,902
    Davido,

    I had forgotten the provenance, but as you note, there's no need to substitute in some places.

  • ServiamScores
    Posts: 2,887
    The old argument is that people need to participate and it’s not pastoral to program music they don’t know.
    The problem is they don’t participate when you want them to, and they DO when you DONT.

    We were chanting the gospel today with turba choruses and people kept trying to say the boldened parts in their missals in spite of the PAINFULLY OBVIOUS fact that the priests and choir were singing everything. It was so odd. Take. A. Hint. People!
  • PaxTecum
    Posts: 314
    Serviam- same thing happen to us- so bad
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  • davido
    Posts: 942
    Like today:
    (Narrator) “Jesus answered:”
    (Priest plus 5 congregational voices) “my kingdom does not belong…”

    Pay attention folks.
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  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
    Posts: 6,902
    Didn't have that problem.

    We did have four of us have to venerate the Cross after the liturgy, because our seminarian didn't wait for us to arrive, at the very end of the line. That was (basically) the worst thing that happened today.
    We sang Palestrina's Adoramus te -- the one that looks to be in a-minor.
    Thanked by 1tomjaw
  • tomjaw
    Posts: 2,782
    We don't have the problem of the people joining in the Passion...

    Solemn Liturgy 11.30 am
    All as in the G.R. 1924
    Sung Passion, Victoria setting
    Popule Meus, Chant
    Crux Fidelis, Chant verses with polyphonic Crux fideli / Dulce lignum refrain
    Vexilla Regis, Chant
    Com: Stabat Mater (Aichinger)
    Com. motet, O caput Cruentatum (Hassler setting/ are. Bach)
    Followed by Vespers sung Recto Tono

    All sung in full from the Festa Majora, 1925 / Liber Usualis 1945
    We had 1 set of cantors, and 3 in choir singing the Lamentations, Lessons, Antiphons, Responsories and Psalms. This took 1¾ hours this evening. We are exhausted!
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  • ServiamScores
    Posts: 2,887
    I listened back to the recording and you can still hear people muttering a solid 7 minutes into the chanting of the passion. I’ve never seen anything like it. Lesson learned: make a note in the bulletin and or an announcement before the service!
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  • trentonjconn
    Posts: 623
    We were chanting the gospel today with turba choruses and people kept trying to say the boldened parts in their missals in spite of the PAINFULLY OBVIOUS fact that the priests and choir were singing everything.


    Yup. This has happened to me too. In fact, it involved people trying to guess at the turba parts and SING along.
    Thanked by 1ServiamScores
  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
    Posts: 5,193
    Maundy Thursday, at Mt Lebanon UMC, Pittsburgh - Psalm 116 (my Anglican chant setting):

    https://www.youtube.com/live/U2zNmudxYls?app=desktop&t=1038s

    RP-Holy Thursday ABC.pdf
    79K
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  • Richard MixRichard Mix
    Posts: 2,798
    Nice, Chuck. I have a little issue with two-page formatting though; duplex printing the unnumbered pages of the Parish Book of Psalms was tricky enough in the first place, but spotting missing leaves in returned folders is a fresh chastisement of its own right.
    Thanked by 2tomjaw CHGiffen
  • tomjaw
    Posts: 2,782
    Easter Vigil 4 ladies, 6 men (20 altar servers including a 20 year old M.C.)

    All Chant from the Graduale Romanum (1924) / Fest Majora (1923/25)
    12 prophecies 1st, 7th, and 12th sung to special tones, all other to prophecy tone.
    TRACT: Cantemus Domino (Chant)
    TRACT: Vinea facta (Chant)
    TRACT: Attende caelum (Chant) (female cantors)
    TRACT: Sicut cervus / Sitivit (Palestina setting)
    Litany of the Saints (Chant)
    KYRIE : I ad lib
    GLORIA: Byrd 4 part Mass
    ALL: (Chant)
    TRACT: Laudate (Chant)
    OFF: Christus Resurgens (Chant)
    SAN: Byrd 4 part Mass
    BEN: Byrd 4 part Mass
    COM: Hymn Jesu Rex admirabilis / Jesu decus angelicum (Dominican melody)
    COM: O Salutaris Hostia De la
    VESPERS: (Chant)
    Marian Anthem: Regina Caeli (Witt)

    This all took 3h40m! a record! We are exhausted, but we are told the singing was excellent.

    Happy Easter...
    Thanked by 2CHGiffen rich_enough
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