Church choirs in the Netherlands are organized a bit similarly to associations, but of course the (vice) president, treasurer, etc. have no formal power whatsoever concerning the choir director.I have never heard of a “choir committee”, let alone one that has the power to sack the director…
I am continuously discussing this matter with the head of the diocesan church music department, who is involved in church musician hiring (advising parishes IF they ask for advice...) and has told me a lot about bishops and their actions wrt. the legal position of church musicians...If I were you, I'd get in touch ASAP with the diocese .... This shouldn't be happening, and the diocese should put a stop to it, not just for you, but for the priests and their authority.
The Dutch bishops have generally forbidden parishes to give church musicians employee status. That means: no health insurance, no pension funding, no unemployment insurance, no protection against multiple short-term contracts, no protection against dismission.The pastor should be in charge of major decisions, and the fact that he is abdicating responsibility in this matter is something the diocese should be made aware of.
I believe that it's especially one of the four (the 'president') but they have arranged to always speak with one voice, so I cannot really tell.It would be interesting to know whether there is one person in particular who is pushing the whole group towards this decision...
That's indeed an interesting one.... and whether they think that they, or someone they know, could do a better job.
The Dutch bishops have generally forbidden parishes to give church musicians employee status.
The Dutch bishops have generally forbidden parishes to give church musicians employee status.
Valuable point! Obvious choice in my case would be to invoke help from St. Titus Brandsma.The Communion of Saints is a wonderful thing, and, IMHO, is underutilized in the modern Church, as if it was superstitious
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It does. Then again, Elmar is in a very protestant country, writ large (from what I understand). Sadly, one also has to question whether or not his ministry will be fruitful if there is active animosity against his efforts, even if he isn't asked to leave.This sounds like how the Protestants run their churches.
Elmar is in a very protestant country
Likewise Salieri, I would have remained one, but alas, it's not the church it was. As for continuing Anglo-Catholics within the fold, one would have thought that they would have defected to the Ordinariate and its predecessors long ago. However, they just blinked, swallowed, and made way for these credulous women who think that they are priests = history's greatestif... I would have defected... long ago.
is exactly, I told them at the end of the meeting, what I was going to do. Not in anger (although that's a challenge) but as the logical consequence for the best of all.Brush the dust from your feet
I greatly appreciate!We’ll be praying for you in the meantime.
1 Do not desire a multitude of useless children, nor rejoice in ungodly sons. If they multiply, do not rejoice in them, unless the fear of the Lord is in them. Do not trust in their survival, and do not rely on their multitude; for one is better than a thousand, and to die childless is better than to have ungodly children.
I fully agree with that! When I realised what they had expected me to do in order to stay (and how little open they had been about it, which I experienced as manipulating and maybe even dishonest) it was clear to me: Even if they had given me a last minute choice to agree to their terms - essentially: total submission to their vision of what it meant to be 'a good director of their choir in their parish' - I would have had to quit by myself out of pure self-respect.It’s odd to think, but you very likely are just better off without them.
I doubt that this is anywhere close to realistic, I now believe that she is only the tip of the iceberg, but...And perhaps, in a year’s time, that woman who is apparently “essential” to the parish, will find her way elsewhere, and you’ll be asked back on much better terms.
...luckily isn't probable to happen either: I do have another choir where they don't confuse my striving - in line with increasing experience - for more influence on choral matters (including music choice) with stubbornnes.you may also “die childless” (sans a choir)
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