I was raised in a conservative Lutheran tradition (LCMS) with great hymns. I don't know that there's a hymn in the old Lutheran hymnal ( Lutherans have followed the Catholics since the 70s in adopting banal P&W songs for the most part) I wouldn't mind finding on our Mass hymn list
And a pretty sorry thing it would be to hold otherwise!Whatever expresses a truth, no matter its provenanc, is, sui generis, Catholic.
I read the text; is it beautiful? Is it orthodox? If these two requisites are fulfilled, I then make sure there's nothing else I'm overlooking and it's a go.
Specious! the text says - a wretch like me, and it was written by the pastor of the church for which he wrote it, referring to himself.Can you imagine if I called people wretches from the pulpit!
Charles W, interesting that you mention "Mother Dear, O Pray for Me" and "To Jesus Heart All Burning", those are excellent examples of Catholic hymns. The hymn "Mother Dear, O Pray for Me" was originally written and composed by Isaac Woodbury, a 19th century teacher, composer and publisher of church music. Isaac as far as I know was not Catholic. The text and melody of his hymn was later changed either by Rev. Edward Sourin, S.J., or another to what is now the traditional melody and words. "To Jesus Heart All Burning" the text and melody I learned come from the 1918-St. Basil Hymnal. Both of these hymns are beautiful. I am unfamiliar with the tunes of the Sister's you mention.
For example, "Amazing Grace" does not express anything contrary to Catholic doctrine all by itself; it's has more to do with the emphasis, which give the impression (though not the explicit assertion) of salvation by "grace alone."
how many of you schedule choral pieces or hymns from Protestant sources as part of your music for Sunday Mass?
Aside from O come O come Emmanual and Adeste fideles, how often do Protestants sing Catholic hymns?
Many Protestant hymnals (though I'm not so sure of Baptists and their ilk) would be gutted if they were relieved of their hymnody of a Catholic provenance.
Often, even Protestant music that is not formally heretical has a non-Catholic sensibility.
our focus should be more on finding music of distinctly Roman aesthetic that follows proper texts, rather than resorting to a litmus test
Sometimes there just aren't good hymns for the day's scripture readings, so taking a cue from the propers (rather than a random pick) seems vastly preferable.
The fact that almost half of the time I'm just filling the "3-hymn sandwich slots" (we don't do recessionals) randomly gives me cause for concern... why not use good congregational proper settings and have hymns less often? At some point in the future either at my parish or at my next job this will be my goal. My career path has taken the "organ-hymns-are-primary" approach just about as far as it can go...
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