Why do you serve?
  • WendiWendi
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    It seems as though, I daily hear of yet another instance in which Catholic musicians have been treated badly. So why do you keep serving?

    I'm not being snarky or confrontational. I'm genuinely curious. Is it worth it? If so...what makes all the downsides worth it to you?

    Thanks in advance for any and all responses.
  • PaixGioiaAmorPaixGioiaAmor
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    It's what I do. I can't imagine doing anything else.

    I very much identified with Pope Francis' comments about being a "son of the Church." Even when I might not like everything individuals in the Church do or say, even if I don't agree with something the Church is teaching, none of that matters. Family is family and home is home.
  • matthewjmatthewj
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    This is the greatest job in the world.

    I've loved every moment and can't even imagine doing anything else.

    And I've felt that way about every place I've worked - from blue collar 500 family parishes, to 6000 family wealthy suburban parishes, to the Cathedral.

    I mean... it's difficult for me to wrap my head around how fantastic this life is sometimes. IT BOGGLES MY EXISTENCE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT IT CONCRETELY. All of us here love church music... and we GET PAID a decent (or in some cases very good) wage to DO CHURCH MUSIC. Think about that. IT'S OUTRAGEOUS AND WONDERFUL.

    Downsides? WHAT DOWNSIDES? I see none. Or very few... and when I contrast that to and think about what it would be like to sell life insurance for a living, I remember everything I wrote up above.
    Thanked by 1ryand
  • WendiWendi
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    I'm very glad for you Matthew. I have to say though your attitude is not one I encounter very often...not even here. For someone just entering the field it's a little discouraging, which is why I asked the question. I cannot be the only newbie who reads this forum.
    Thanked by 1matthewj
  • Well it’s always possible that Matthew is one of those rare saintly souls never rattled by a misguided, micromanaging pastor, or perhaps he’s just lucky to never have been broadsided by disruptive innovation.

    I tend to think comparatively. Whenever I see roofers doing their thing in 100º heat or power company technicians handling high voltage wires during a sub-freezing winter storm, the grievances of church work seem to lessen. I’ve also had the experience of having labored outside of music. Though the income can be a lot better, the higher salary almost always comes with added pressure. Going without sleep for days in order to meet an imposed deadline is no one’s idea of fun.

    At bottom the greatest lure for choosing church work is the spiritual reward. When you feel church employment hinders your spiritual enrichment, it’s time to move on.
  • CharlesW
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    I have made more money in another field, and you are right about the stress. It kept me in a state of near exhaustion for too many years. Why do I stay in music? I have friends, dear friends, who depend on me. I chiefly stay to support them in their music, whether it be always of the greatest quality, or more often not. The downside is that I do get physically tired, very tired. Music is like my weight training. I feel I have accomplished something, and it feels good when I stop.
  • Kathy
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    I tell children's (and sometimes adults') choirs that singing will be what we do in heaven, so we should get started now. I try to keep that perspective in all I do for Church music.
  • PaixGioiaAmorPaixGioiaAmor
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    Most of the time I'm saying "I can't believe I get paid to do this." Other times, things feel more arduous and it feels more like "service." Either way, I wouldn't trade it for anything.
    Thanked by 2Gavin Ralph Bednarz
  • kevinfkevinf
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    I share the same attitude as Matthew does. While it is true for me that I have worked for liturgically challenged clergy who have had very little appetite for anything beyond OEW, I have also been fortunate to make wonderful friends, meet great clergy who love the Church, admired and appreciated a few bishops and got the opportunity to make incredible music. I have traveled, prayed and shared dinners with wonderful people. I have seen great churches, prayed at the tombs of saints and seen works of art that continue to leave me breathless. I have watched children from the time they have started to sing to going off to Julliard to study singing, seen choirs of children sing remarkable things and love it and watched student organists master Bach fugues. I continue to see joy in the faces of those whom I make music with and I receive joy when I teach people to love the Church and know its beauty. I still cry when I hear the In Paradisum sung because it still touches me.

    I too, would not do anything else. Yes, I have worked in difficult situations, but I have always managed to find goodness in it all. And to top it all off, I get to continue to do it every day. Deo gratias.
    Thanked by 2ContraBombarde Gavin

  • In flagéllo gloriátur.
    ~St. Catherine of Alex.

    I guess deep down in the bottom of my heart I'm a glutton for punishment. It's not as bad as it sometimes seems with wierd music and everyone's got to be the diva and own the mass. Some people are easier to work with than others... still...
    It's great work, and every week I find a new motivation to get me there early... Having a new family makes going to church together fun, to watch daddy play piano!
    Thanked by 1CHGiffen
  • Wendi,


    I have had - by turns - wonderful and nightmarish situations. My first truly wonderful parish had as its pastor a man who trusted me to do my job, and hired me both for my skill set and my mind set. He sent me to my first Colloquium. I've never managed to go back, but it made a permanent impression on me.

    The position was part time, and an hour each way from my house, but I happily drove it with three children under 6. Mass was Mass, was Mass. I didn't have to meet with my boss, except twice a year: Candlemass and Holy Week. We read from the same sheet of music, as it were.

    Both before and since I've had nightmarish positions (and some real gems, including my current situation). I was thrilled (and relieved) this year when my pastor allowed us to have no organ in Lent.

    Why did/do I continue: God gave me the knowledge and the gift, and I feel a certain responsibility to use it to His honor and glory.

    Thanked by 1M. Jackson Osborn
  • Jani
    Posts: 441
    I sing to offer some continuity in a parish where we never know from year to year, or sometimes even month to month, if we will have Mass or not at any given time. I've invested a lot financially to learn and grow, and my parish has been very receptive of everything I've led them through over the years. I'm a volunteer and treated very kindly.
  • Jani
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    P.S. And everything Matthew said, too. It's crazy-awesome to be a church singer and even better, to be appreciated.
  • GavinGavin
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    Go in when the church is empty, turn on the organ, hit the Tutti piston, and play a C Major chord.

    That's why I do it.
  • donr
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    I am also a volunteer. I do it for love of the Lord who gave me the ability (although its a work in progress), love of Church and love of church music.
    Thanked by 2ryand Jenny
  • CharlesW
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    A priest once asked me if I ever gave thanks to God for my talent. I had to admit that I don't. I tend to take it for granted and just assume everybody else has the same, so it isn't anything to make a fuss over. I have to remind myself that there is something to be thankful for and that I should be grateful and give thanks.
  • melofluentmelofluent
    Posts: 4,160
    I do it simply because the folks (and most of the clergy/staff) trust me and know my heart. For that they put up with an obscure maxim, "Love me, love my dog." (HT to Fr. Vince Scott.) In other words, if the folks with whom I interact don't know my heart, they will obsess over dog farts, barking, growling and miss entirely the unflagging support I offer them on all fronts. No amount of money can supplant that level of trust.
    I persevere in that trust.
  • Wow, Kathy!! That's my answer, and also what I tell choirs of all ages.

    As an asthmatic who has almost died, I feel really grateful to sing, at lest for now. My motto is,

    Since God has given breath to me, I will return it with a song."

    Cheesy, Pollyanna. But I mean it!
    Thanked by 2CHGiffen Kathy
  • aldine
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    Thanked by 1Jani
  • Jeffrey Quick
    Posts: 2,086
    I gotta be at Mass anyway; I'd might as well sing, since God has give me a talent or two (not 5 or 10). Since I'm not a MD and don't rely on church work for a living, I don't have to (and won't) work for fools. So I'm largely insulated from the worst that people can do to church musicians. I'm working in an OF parish because that's where the people are and where the battle is being fought to finally implement Vatican II.
    Thanked by 1Andrew Motyka
  • WendiWendi
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    Thank you all for your positive comments. They are most encouraging.
  • JulieCollJulieColl
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    Zelus domus tuae comedit me.
    Thanked by 1StimsonInRehab
  • Why I do it:

    I've been a musician for twenty years and don't really enjoy anything else.
    I've done other jobs--filthy, back breaking food service jobs, boring and intellectually insulting call center jobs--very aware that I am blessed to have an alternative.
    As open minded as I try to be, I would much rather work with people who share my values and not constantly feel a need to explain myself. Sure this can happen in a church setting but it's not as bad as other settings.
    I have a retort for the finance director when he calls to lecture me about how the rich people give their time and talent so that "people like me" can get tuition assistance for their children to attend the school (very ugly and isolated incident which was promptly taken care of by the priest...)
    But really, it is a calling and I am thankful every day for the gifts God has given me to do this work.
  • kenstb
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    Music is a by product of the way that I pray. I am one of those fortunate people who goes through life with a song in his heart. I take my talent as a gift from God, and what I do with it is my way of giving thanks to Him. I have made music for my entire life, sacred music and secular music. In fact, it is the language that I am most comfortable expressing myself in. Like many people on this forum, I have had good and bad experiences in liturgical music, but I have also had the experience of being told by parishioners of how a particular piece of music moved them to a closer relationship with Christ. That alone makes the hard times worthwhile.
  • teachermom24
    Posts: 327
    I with my children are volunteers, except for one son who is paid a modest amount to play the organ. It is a very difficult situation with no pastoral encouragement (LifeTeen is center stage at our parish). Why do we serve? It gives my 17yo son a bit of income and experience; my boys have access to the organ to practice; my children (and I!) are learning sacred music and chant; we are allowed to offer sacred music for the Mass we attend.
  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
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    For the record - I've voiced my worry to many at the Colloquium because I felt my congregation wasn't singing. Yesterday a parishioner came up to me and spontaneously asked me if I could record a CD to help them learn how to sing parts of the mass. And that's why I serve.
    Thanked by 2CHGiffen kenstb
  • WendiWendi
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    There you go. You can't force them. But the more you and the choir sing beautifully, the more you will encourage the open-minded members to join you.
  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
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    Our conversation was the first thing that came to my mind when this happened. Speaking of, Wendi, what was the name of that setting of the St. Michael Prayer I should look into?
  • WendiWendi
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    Sorry...it took a minute to find the link again.

    http://thewayofbeauty.org/files/2012/11/STMichael.pdf
  • soarmarcsoarmarc
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    Hi Wendi,

    I have been in my role as a volunteer choir director for less than a year. I jumped at the opportunity when it came up. Having endured arbitrary song selection and poor musicality at my parish for years, I saw it as a chance to make the Mass better for not just myself, but my fellow parishioners.

    Little did I know that our new pastor is one of the most anti-Latin, anti-chant, anti-Propers priest you are likely ever to meet. Basically, if he can't sing it, we can't sing it. That means everything must be congregational, must be in English, and must be in the hymnal. The one exception is Communion, during which he doesn't seem to care what we sing, probably because he can't sing while distributing Communion.

    I have tried reasoning with him, but it is no use. He simply makes arbitrary decisions without any hint of an explanation. If I question anything, he simply says "DO IT MY WAY!" (Not always in those exact words, but always in capital letters).

    I could easily walk away. But in that case, I lose, my choir loses, and my parish loses. Even if we are forced to sing four hymns every Mass, I can still use my liturgical and musical knowledge to pick the best hymns possible and sing them as best we can. That's better than anything that would be left at my parish were I to quit tomorrow.

    So, why do I serve? Because God has given me the talent and opportunity to do so. Because beautiful liturgy is worth fighting for. And because I refuse to allow our treasure of sacred music to remain buried for another generation, even if right now I can only scratch the surface.
    Thanked by 1JulieColl
  • kenstb
    Posts: 369
    Soarmarc,

    Be patient and continue to pray for the priest. Anything worth having is worth working and waiting for. Good liturgy changes everything.
  • WendiWendi
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    soarmarc...my best advice is to start making Communion as breathtakingly beautiful as you can. If it must be in English, Byrd and Tallis both have some lovely things. The more beauty you can offer the congregation, the more they will respond. In the meantime...pray for the priest.
    Thanked by 1kenstb
  • rollingrj
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    To paraphrase Descarte, "Canto; ergo sum."

    To make a return, however meager it is, to God for all He has given me (circa. the Psalm reference).

    To contribute, however insignificantly, to the restoration of the true, good, and beautiful in the liturgy.

    To assist my fellow travelers, however much, in becoming a better pray-er.