smvanroode

Rest in peace PP Francis
So, the octave of paschal tide is basically completely omitted. Is that what I am understanding? No. The Octave of Easter is celebrated in the normal way. The Liturgical Notes state clearly that (my emphasis): While there is only one Funeral Mass,…

Comment by smvanroode April 21 permalink
Palm/Passion Sunday
St. Anthony’s cathedral in Breda, the Netherlands: Hosanna filio David + Psalm 118 (Graduale novum) Gloria laus (Graduale novum) Psalmus 21 (Graduale simplex) Christus factus est (Graduale novum) Credo III Te regomus, audi nos Parce Domine Sanctus …

Comment by smvanroode April 15 permalink
Preces- Divine Office
The Antiphonale Romanum I and II use two different tones, one for Sunday Lauds and one for Sunday Vespers.

Comment by smvanroode April 12 permalink
"Communion hymn must be about the Eucharist"
The choice of communion hymn shouldn’t be restricted to hymns about the Eucharist. The communion chants from the Graduale Romanum for example almost never are about the Eucharist, but usually repeat a verse from the Gospel or use a text from the Psa…

Comment by smvanroode April 10 permalink
Novus Ordo wedding entrance antiphon
I was married two years ago. We were received by the priest at the entrance of the church, and sprinkled with holy water. Then we processed, after the priest and the serves, to the altar while the introit Deus in loco sancto was sung.

Comment by smvanroode April 5 permalink
We Songs
The difference here is, that the ‘we’ is collectively addressing God and pleading with Him: the lyrics read as a prayer. Does a text that, for example, would quote John 6:68 (‘Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life’) fall in t…

Comment by smvanroode April 2 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
The Dutch bishops use five categories of liturgical music (in order of preference; emphasis from the original): 1. Preference should be given to chants that use the prescribed liturgical text from the relevant Mass formulary (especially for the Ent…

Comment by smvanroode March 26 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
Could this be why the Novus Ordo will never find a firm footing? I don’t intend to open Pandora’s box here, but: are we living in the same world? The current Roman Missal is the de facto standard all across the Roman Catholic world. Desire shouldn’…

Comment by smvanroode March 25 permalink
Laus Tibi Christe Rex Aeternae Gloriae
‘Laus tibi Christe’ from Psallite Domino. Canti per la messa (Libreria Musicale Italiana, 2007), p. 81: Three acclamations from Singing the Mass. Sung Order of Mass in Latin and English (Solesmes, 2011), p. 41: The Cathedral Choir of Haarlem (…

Comment by smvanroode March 25 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
The options in the Roman Missal The fact that options are listed in a certain sequence, doesn’t necessarily mean that they are ordered according to preference. Indeed, other Church documents could tell if it is a ranking of preference. For example, …

Comment by smvanroode March 25 permalink
New Hymn for Second Sunday of Lent (Text Taken From the Breviary)
I have nothing against the use or the translation of this hymn (and what a great melody!), but I do wonder if it should be assigned to the Second Sunday of Lent. The hymn text, taken from Prudentius’s Cathemerinon, is about the Epiphany rather then…

Comment by smvanroode March 23 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
They are one of the only bishops conferences in the world (maybe the only) which never organized their own hymnal and mandated its use. The are not alone. The bishops of the Netherlands never published their own hymnal. and putting them under roya…

Comment by smvanroode March 20 permalink
Propers (preferably Latin) for Votive Mass of Mercy?
The Graduale novum II (p. 477) has the following propers for the Missa Votiva De Dei Misericordia: IN Domine, in tua misericordia GR Miserere mei, Deus AL Verba mea or Deus iudex iustus OF Miserere mihi, Domine CO In salutari tuo

Comment by smvanroode February 25 permalink
Programing in Durufle Requiem
As far as I can see, only the Sanctus and Agnus Dei would be appropriate for a Sunday Mass. The Kyrie forms one movement with the Introit; the setting lacks of course a Gloria. The proper texts are all specifically for a funeral; they would imho n…

Comment by smvanroode February 5 permalink
LOTH Ordo Cantus Officii acronym question
Because the Antiphonale Solesmense (1935) contains antiphons that the Antiphonale Monasticum (1934) does not. A few examples: Praeclara salutis (AS 842) for B. Mariae Virginis de Lourdes (February 11) [but also in AR 540] Illuxit dies (AS 855) for …

Comment by smvanroode January 23 permalink
Info on Sacred Music sources
Some titles about the history of sacred music, that might be helpful as a start: Christopher Page, The Christian West and its Singers. The First Thousand Years (Yale University Press, 2010) [highly recommended!] Rebecca Maloy, Inside the Offertory…

Comment by smvanroode January 23 permalink
LOTH Ordo Cantus Officii acronym question
AS: Antiphonale Solesmense (Paris, 1935) AV suppl: Officia Propria pro aliquibus locis, Supplementum ad Antiphonale Vaticanum (Rome, 1920) Mil: melodia ex traditione mediolanensi sumpta OCSO: Antiphonarium Cisterciense (Westmalle, 1903) Rom: mel…

Comment by smvanroode January 23 permalink
Mundelein Psalter PDF
When the strophe consists of two lines, use the first and sixth musical phrase; if it consists of three lines, use the first, second and sixth musical phrase; etcetera.

Comment by smvanroode January 19 permalink
Presentation of the Lord- OF
Thank you for your frank reply and for being open about your position. It clarifies a lot. It still puzzles me though (sorry for that), how insisting to adhere to liturgical rubrics somehow makes someone a liberal who does whatever he wants. Also t…

Comment by smvanroode January 19 permalink
Presentation of the Lord- OF
But OK. More power to you. I'm in the dark as to why this would be about power. It’s just a matter of ‘say the black, do the red’. Church documents have this to say about it: ‘Therefore no other person, even if he be a priest, may add, remove,…

Comment by smvanroode January 18 permalink
Presentation of the Lord- OF
Wow, where does the harsh tone come from? ‘Not to be lit again’ (after extinguishing them) is just a consequence of the prescriptive nature of rubrics. The absence of a contradictory rubric doesn’t mean one can do anything one wants (at least, in …

Comment by smvanroode January 17 permalink
Presentation of the Lord- OF
Both The Roman Missal and the Ceremonial of Bishops are silent about the time the candles are to be extinguished. However, from Msgr. Peter Elliott, Ceremonies of the Liturgical Year (2002, p. 48): ‘Strictly speaking, candles should be extinguished…

Comment by smvanroode January 17 permalink
Benedictus Antiphons from the Antiphonale Romanum (2020), Volume 1
Here your are!

Comment by smvanroode January 11 permalink
"Omnes qui in Christo" corrected chant question
I'm just guessing: is the interval re-mi perhaps more natural to the second mode that the interval do-mi? Does ‘baptizati estis’ mimic ‘estis Christum’?

Comment by smvanroode January 10 permalink
Announcing a major new offering: "The Our Lady of Mount Carmel Hymnal"
I see it has been made for the French, with accents on two syllable Latin words. I noticed that as well. Totally unnecessary in my opinion. Does it make sense, from the perspective of a regular parish, to have 11 settings of the Creed? The many en…

Comment by smvanroode December 2024 permalink
Easy Kyriale combinations for congregation?
This is the Missa Simplex from the Kyriale parvum.

Comment by smvanroode December 2024 permalink
Gospel Acclamation for OT
I'm quite fond of this 4th mode alleluia from the Graduale simplex (Advent I): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J39w_uJrGNA An example (pdf) can be found here.

Comment by smvanroode November 2024 permalink
Benediction and dismissal for vespers in Latin
Here you are!

Comment by smvanroode November 2024 permalink
Choir Sitting for Eucharistic Prayer?!
Our schola stands at the Eucharistic Prayer, while the general posture by the faithful is kneeling. As we have to sing the Memorial Acclamation (‘Mortem tuam…’) and the ‘Amen’ after ‘Per ipsum’, and have to be on our feet for the Pater noster, to re…

Comment by smvanroode November 2024 permalink
When to start music at communion
I never heard of a bell when the priest receives from the chalice. I went to masses all over Europe (the Netherlands, where I live, Belgium, Luxemburg, France, Germany, Poland, Italy) and never encountered this practice. The communion chant is begu…

Comment by smvanroode October 2024 permalink

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