We also think for ourselves about the texts, right? But how?
I want an example of a weird hymn that has already passed the preceding tests.
I think hymns should be theological marvels, made singable.
(It also guides my own writing, whenever possible.)
A great hymn by Charles Wesley, Come, O Thou Traveller Unknown, unfortunately uses an old image for compassion, "To me, to all, Thy bowels move/ Thy nature and Thy name is love."
Of course it does, which is why I was perplexed by the laissez-faire attitude I thought you were expressing earlier. These things really matter to you, I think.
And people claim we should never edit hymn texts for use in worship...
Andrew, I don't know exactly what the "preceding tests" are
+Doctrinally sound (I'm okay with mildly ambiguous, as long as I think it can be reasonably understood in a doctrinally sound way-- and it's only one text out of many that are clear and good)
+Poetically worthwhile
+Clear and transparent on first reading
BUT
+Rich enough to sustain further study
I know I've mentioned this before, but I have a spreadsheet which is updated every new BB issue, that assigns my grade A-F to each item in BB.
Avoids use of the word "Man" to describe humanity generally
(I have no issues with male-pronouns for God, BTW. But the "man" thing really bothers me, so I just avoid it in my own programming.
Traditionally, the word man has been used to refer not only to adult males but also to human beings in general, regardless of sex. There is a historical explanation for this: in Old English, the principal sense of man was ‘a human being,’ and the words wer and wif were used to refer specifically to ‘a male person’ and ‘a female person,’ respectively. Subsequently, man replaced wer as the normal term for ‘a male person,’ but at the same time the older sense ‘a human being’ remained in use. In the second half of the 20th century, the generic use of man to refer to ‘human beings in general’ (as in reptiles were here long before man appeared on the earth) became problematic; the use is now often regarded as sexist or old-fashioned.
- Won't make anyone giggle
CHG - Are you arguing for or against my position?
How is it that Adam manages to be right on so many things, and then rescues defeat from the jaws of victory?
If I may answer a slightly different one than posed: anthems and motets should be used carefully. Some texts are always appropriate, such as Ave Verum Corpus; some are appropriate for specific feasts, such as Circumduxit eam for the feast of St. Therese, the little flower; honoring Our Lady is proper, if done well.
There are certain hymns and motets which are more special when they are reserved to their appropriate place and time on the calendar.
OCP < GIA < WLP < CMAA?
God in us made manifest?
God in flesh made manifest?
God in MAN made manifest!
One who would valiant be, 'gainst all disaster?
HE who would valiant be, gainst all disaster!
Faith of our ancestral parental units?
Besides, the Holy Office refused the request to leave out "men" in the Creed: who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from Heaven.
The original of this is not a hymn I would use, regardless.
Actually, for me, Glorious Things of Thee Are Spoken is weird, because it is usually sung to Austria, a tune which has Nazi connotations
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