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  • John_Shipley
    Posts: 11
    Will someone take a look at the following YOUTUBE link for me, please? I came across it by chance.

    Sung Traditional Latin Mass (Pius X rubrics) celebrated by Fr. Julian Larrabee

    I recognised the opening music (and introit setting) as the psalm tone from Asperges me and another proper setting as the psalm tone from the introit Resurrexi, with which I am familiar. In a conversation with our temporary assistant priest, I leaned about Rossini tones and that provided part of the answer I was seeking. The assistant priest is a convert Anglican clergyman, by the way, so that explains why he is familiar with Gregorian chant!

    In the notes underneath the YOUTUBE clip, there is reference to the Octave of the Immaculate Conception and that gave me a link to the proper of the Mass. A bit of detective work, listening to the Kyrie and then seeking an eye-match for the notes in my head in Liber Usualis, led me to Mass XII. I cross-checked this with the Sanctus in the same way, for verification. Our assistant priest informed me that form of the Credo setting, almost a monotone with a slight flex at the end of a line, was an acceptable practice among choirs without full music training.

    While I am on this subject, is the intonation of the Gloria (6.15) different from the one in Mass XII or am I mistaken? Similarly, is the Credo intonation from Credo I (15.38) or am I mistaken here too?.

    I cannot, however, make out what is at 21.00 and what is at 44.33 and this is the (eventual) point of this enquiry. Can anyone provide the answer, please?

    I have to say, from a personal perspective, that the simple and dignified elegance of this celebration is almost breathtaking.

  • Spriggo
    Posts: 122
    A link for the above video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azeshmwXUzg
  • Felicity
    Posts: 77
    The chant beginning at 21.00 repeats the same melody multiple times (four ?) and ends with an "Amen". Thus it is either a "Sequence' or (more likely) a "Hymn". I admit that the melody sounds very familiar. It is too bad that the microphone could not clearly pick up the words. That would have helped a lot.

    The piece at 44.33 is sung in parts and seems to be strictly chordal. I do not recognize the melody and I cannot make out the words.

    A point of confusion: The Feast of the Immaculate Conception is celebrated on Dec. 8. The "octave" of this feast would be on Dec. 16...during Advent when flowers would not be allowed on the altar. Further, all of the "octaves" were suppressed except Christmas, Easter, and Pentecost. The fact that the altar is decorated with poinsettias would indicate to me that this Mass took place at or after Christmas.

    In agreement: most elegant!

    Deo gratias!
    Felicity
  • JulieCollJulieColl
    Posts: 2,465
    Just so you know, this is a video from a sedevacantist group, the Society of St. Pius V, based in Ohio.

    (On a side note, it's fascinating to note the distinct lack of congregational participation which I suppose is consistent with the sedevacantist philosophy. Some sedevacantists I know do not recognize Popes XI and XII as valid popes--- I don't know if this Ohio-based group shares that view, but I imagine they do not have much sympathy for the goals of the original Liturgical Movement.)
  • Richard MixRichard Mix
    Posts: 2,795
    45' is a much cooked-down and abbreviated version of Josquin's most popular work.
    Thanked by 1CHGiffen
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