Embody
  • ghmus7
    Posts: 1,483
    I thought you would all get a chuckle out of this found on a certain
    Diocesan website:

    Characteristics of the Spirituality of the Minister of Music
    • Understand a “supporting” role
    • Live the non-verbal dimension of relationship with God and community
    • Understand the rhythms of celebration
    • See self as the musical instrument
    • Hear the rhythm of the Paschal Mystery
    • Embody the sound of surrender

    I hope you are all embodying the sound of surrender!
    Thanked by 2Kathy MHI
  • CharlesW
    Posts: 11,979
    Hehehehe! Sounds like they let the crazy liturgist out of the basement again. LOL.
    Thanked by 2Gavin MHI
  • melofluentmelofluent
    Posts: 4,160
    Wonderful thoughts, nice feeling I'm having, hints of citron, petulie, sea foam, palm fronds (or eucalyptus), .....um, no.....wait.
    Ah, mothballs, witch hazel, moldy bread (gluten free, though), and NightTrain.
    If Dorothy can surrender, well, dagnabit, so can I.
    One dread.........embodied
    One self as Lord...
    Excuse me, have to go to infirmary for a rhythm check.
    Thanked by 1MHI
  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
    Posts: 6,902
    Do you celebrate in waltz or in march rhythm?

    I once avoided a senior recital which included piano and "prepared soprano". Seriously.
    Would that count as seeing one's self as a musical instrument?

    What does a supporting role support, exactly?
  • francis
    Posts: 10,824
    The only 'sound of surrender' I ever embody are a few chants I sing calling on the power of St. Michael the Archangel and intercessory arm of the BVM and the excorsism prayer of St. Benedict. After that, you are entirely surrendered to them and you can take up your issues with them directly. I am just a musician in their service.
  • Steve QSteve Q
    Posts: 121
    Disqualifies me.
  • CharlesW
    Posts: 11,979
    I once surrendered to someone named Pamela in my youth, but you really don't want to hear about that. ;-)
  • Jeffrey Quick
    Posts: 2,086
    cgz: was the implication that most sopranos are unprepared? ;-)
    Thanked by 1barreltone
  • jpal
    Posts: 365
    Jeffrey: that is my experience. Is "prepared soprano" another term for a mezzo-soprano?
    Live the non-verbal dimension of relationship with God and community

    Does that have something to do with worthy organ repertoire?

    Understand the rhythms of celebration

    Like, knowing what a tristropha represents metaphorically?

    See self as the musical instrument

    I think they are saying that the Minister of Music needs to be certified in Orff approach? It's big on body percussion.

    Hehehehe! Sounds like they let the crazy liturgist liturgeist out of the basement containment unit again. LOL. EEK!

    Fixed!
  • MHIMHI
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    Thanked by 5CharlesW francis CHGiffen Chris Allen Earl_Grey
  • melofluentmelofluent
    Posts: 4,160
    From the subliminal to the ridonculous today.
  • chonakchonak
    Posts: 9,216
    With my Google-fu skills I found which diocese published those words -- or at least one such diocese. I'll be clement and not give the name.

    The sheet cites some institute in Dayton as the source -- the outfit that publishes "Living Liturgy", which contains a lot of talk like that.
  • MHIMHI
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  • David AndrewDavid Andrew
    Posts: 1,206
    "The sonic fabric of the liturgy."

    One of my favorite liturgical new-speak constructs.

    Any guesses as to who coined that phrase?
  • DougS
    Posts: 793
    "Sonic fabric of the liturgy" seems legit to me, as it encompasses spoken word, music, bells (if present), and even silence.

    Sound studies, sound culture, etc. All good stuff.
  • noel jones, aagonoel jones, aago
    Posts: 6,611
    "The sonic fabric of the liturgy."

    This brings to mind the Ketchup ad on Prairie Home Companion.

    And this whole thread of thought makes it very clear that deaf Catholics are not important and welcome.
  • BothFormandFunction
    Posts: 3
    Is it wrong that I have no contact with the local diocesan worship office for anything at all? And I have no desire to mostly due to this type of "liturgy speak". Sometimes, I do think that "Big Brother" might be watching, but I suddenly realize that it is our Lord.
    Thanked by 1CharlesW
  • CharlesW
    Posts: 11,979
    It is not wrong, but preferred.
    Thanked by 3MHI Gavin kevinf
  • David Sullivan
    Posts: 355
    "Is it wrong that I have no contact with the local diocesan worship office for anything at all? "

    As a certain pastor used to sing sotto voce to a tune from My Fair Lady: "All I want is a rectory, far away from the chancery....."
  • kevinfkevinf
    Posts: 1,190
    Sonic fabric of the liturgy

    I heard Fr. Virgil Funk of NPM fame say it once at a meeting attended. It sounded like hippie-speak to me when I heard it.
  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
    Posts: 5,193
    I once heard/witnessed Fr. Virgil Funk celebrate Mass, and, singing, he accompanied himself on the guitar with EVERYTHING assigned to his role as celebrant ... it was freaky and frequently broken by a running commentary on what was going on.
    Thanked by 1chonak
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
    Posts: 6,482
    wow
  • Scott_WScott_W
    Posts: 468
    • Understand a “supporting” role
    • Live the non-verbal dimension of relationship with God and community
    • Embody the sound of surrender


    Sounds like a flowery way of saying, "Shut up and do what you are told!" (For not very much money, by the way).
    Thanked by 1CharlesW
  • CharlesW
    Posts: 11,979
    Dear Fr. Funk has an article in the current GIA Quarterly. He talks about what he knew musicians needed when he and others formed NPM chapters 25 years ago. He goes on to mention musicians gathering in small groups in mystical communion with one another, etc. Read it if you have nothing better to do. I think I am liking the Mrs. Beamish approach in the sign of peace video someone posted on another thread. Fr. Funk and GIA, leave me the H... alone. Take your mystical communion and shove it. ;-)
    Thanked by 2DougS francis
  • chonakchonak
    Posts: 9,216
    Oh. I thought "the sound of surrender" was something about singing chant in the French manner.
  • melofluentmelofluent
    Posts: 4,160
    Oh. I thought "the sound of surrender" was something about singing chant in the French manner.

    Cute. But besides probably upsetting any Francophiles, RC, I think you have to remand your precious quote to the irrelevant comments thread, just sayin'.
    Thanked by 1chonak
  • kevinfkevinf
    Posts: 1,190
    The Francophiles ( and Francophones) have been duly offended.
  • CharlesW
    Posts: 11,979
    My French grandmother would rip your eyes out! LOL.
  • SalieriSalieri
    Posts: 3,177
    C'est outrage!
    Thanked by 1CharlesW
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