Writing Hymns
  • E_A_FulhorstE_A_Fulhorst
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    I've tried my hand recently at writing hymns, music and lyrics. But it's so thin without formal training. What books would be good to read to learn about writing a good hymn text, or appropriate music, or the like? I'm looking for practical tips rather than theoretical or sacramentally pious principles.
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  • Liam
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    I think it does help to have a strong sense for textual meter: know your iambs and trochees and what not and how idiomatic English tends to use them. Know which textual meter works best with what musical meters. One needs a good feel for the inherent musicality of idiomatic language. (Actors learn this, for example, by experimenting with myriad ways of saying the same script.)

    I will offer one conceptual tip from none other than Stephen Sondheim. (Yes, I realize that citing a Broadway composer here, let alone Sondheim, is provocative here. But bear with me, please.) Sondheim, a very pragmatic craftsman, distinguishes between poetry and lyrics. To paraphrase and summarize too crudely: Poetry has its own musicality, and can be diminished by being set to music; lyrics, however, require music in order to come more fully into being.
  • Liam! Mention Sondheim here? "Not while I'm around." I'm going to "have a little priest" give you some appropriate spiritual guidance. Sondheim in these hallowed halls, we might as well "send in the clowns" or some of "those beautiful girls" in tutus to process the gifts....! I'm just having a hard enough time "being alive" and you mention Sondheim. What's next? Puccini? ;p
  • Liam
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    Hey, when I was a senior in high school, I got to see Sweeney Todd in the first month of its original run, and had a center aisle seat about 13 rows from the front in the gargantuan Uris (now Gershwin) Theatre. From the piercing sound of that steam whistle, it was an indelible experience and I've never experienced anything like it (seeing Diana Rigg in the fully (and wonderfully) staged London revival of Follies a few years later was also indelible, just not as assaultive). "A Little Priest" went over like hotcakes with my classmates, we tried to remember as much of it as possible on the bus home that night. And the chorus that ran around the set was incredible, not just the featured stars.

    I don't confuse Broadway and sacred music. But the craft of lyrics does not acknowledge a Berlin Wall between the two worlds, just a stern French border guard who is ready to tell you your papers are not in order but will take a bribe to ignore that.
  • E_A_FulhorstE_A_Fulhorst
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    Any books on the matter?
  • EAF, I would refer you to our colleague Kathleen Pluth's excellent blog, HYMNOGRAPHY UNBOUND, as a great starting place for your interests.
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  • Kathy
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    Read hymnals--that would be my advice. Read every single hymn in a hymnal, think about it, pray about it, wonder if/why it is good/great.

    Read the B-i-b-l-e. Get to know everything about it. Follow the footnotes and especially the cross-references that show the connections between the Testaments and between different books.

    Read classic texts on spirituality, written by saints. Read their hymns and poetry.

    Then--write. Start with a phrase or an image that occurs to you while praying. Let it become an entire line. That line will have a certain number of syllables. Find a tune that you like and know that has that number of syllables in its lines. Then sing your new hymn into being. Walking helps. Keep your line in mind, and let the tune run through your mind, and if you are lucky the whole hymn begins to develop nicely.

    Then--edit. This is a painful phase because some of your treasured lines will not be useable, and you will have to toss them. Do not be afraid to do that.

    Then--ask someone else to read your finished hymn, someone who knows this craft and/or poetry and/or theology, and who will be honest.

    Edit again. Then you'll be done. Should take about 20 years :)
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  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
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    I was waiting for Kathy to weigh in on this, because she is such an accomplished, nuanced, and excellent author of hymn texts and translations. She knows the subject well and everything she says about writing hymns is the best advice one could get.

    Indeed, one cannot stress enough Kathy's advice and recommendations about preparation necessary for good hymn writing: read hymnals, read the Bible, read classic texts by saints on spirituality - and read their hymns and poetry. Her description of the initial writing process is very apt indeed. In prayer, seize upon a phrase or image and let it become a whole line. Ascertain the rhythmic pattern of that line and find one or more tunes familiar to you that fit that pattern. Then, in a most practical metaphor, she tell you to use the hymn tune or tunes you have selected to "sing your new hymn into being." It doesn't end there, however, and her advice is spot on to edit, honestly and scrupulously, tossing out what is not usable or appropriate, and to seek knowledgeable advice from someone else. Having done this, you will want to edit yet again until you have something worthy.

    The question was also raised about writing hymn music as well as lyrics. Kathy's prescription for writing hymn texts made advises one to seek out appropriate hymn tunes to assist in the process of setting down a workable text. For the process of writing hymn tunes (and harmonizing tunes), much of Kathy's advice carries over.

    Read - and sing (listening as you sing) - extensively - hymnals, trying to determine ascertain what makes a hymn, both music and text, great.

    Listen to and sing, whever possible, motets and harmonized Propers of the Mass, especially those by the masters - and let the music you sing and hear breathe melody and harmony into your creative spirit.

    It helps to have an excellent hymn text or poem in mind before attempting to compose the music for a hymn. Read aloud, over and over, the text which you wish to set to music. While you may and perhaps cannot help but have in mind some tune already associated with the text, try as much as possible to dissociate yourself and your mind from the tune and listen to your heart while trying to sing a new tune into existence. Once you have something workable for the first line or two, try to flesh your tune out to an entire stanza, paying special attention to overall form, using your awareness as to how successful hymn tunes arrive at a satisfying, meaningful end.

    But the melody of a hymn tune is only the beginning, for the tune only comes alive when harmony has been breathed into it. This is perhaps the most difficult part of writing good hymn music, one where all too many "hymns" turn into "songs" of dubious quality. Good hymn music has good harmonic motion and cadence, in the same way that good poetry has good rhythm and cadence. Write and harmonize the music to match and enhance the rhythm and cadence of the text. You may need to alter, perhaps signigicantly, your original hymn tune melody, even if you have considerable harmonization skills. Don't be afraid to discard that which doesn't work.

    Of course, it is all the more complicated when one sets about to create new lyrics and music for a work all at once, although generally one will work first with one (often words first) and then the other - and then, back and forth as the work evolves.

    The best lyric poetry is the voice of the mind and spirit, and music comes from the heart as well as the mind. Music and poetry combined are the deepest, most profound, utterances and emanations of the soul.
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  • Liam
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    Excellent. I should add - though this is less of a concern, I believe, on this board (as opposed to a more contemporary board, shall we say) - that a good metrical hymn should sound good a cappella. Write from the voice.
  • E_A_FulhorstE_A_Fulhorst
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    Is there a particular Catholic hymnal worth picking up? I have one from Gran'ma, but she was a Protestant. There are a lot of new, good hymnals --- any old, good hymnals? (I feel like I need an education in what's old before I could really feel out what's good about the new.)

    Alternatively, is it basically safe to do an Anglican hymnal? Anything in particular I should watch out for?
  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
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    Liam, I couldn't agree more! I also failed to mention that the music for hymns should be singable in all parts, requiring the composer to observe the principles of good counterpoint and, above all, sensible voice leading.
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  • Liam
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    EAF

    Well, among American hymnals, the 1940 Hymnal (Episcopal Church of the USA) holds the benchmark place.

    There was a wonderful Companion to it that explains the history of all the items. Its availability varies in the used book trade, but I think it's worth getting for reference.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000I3NZGA/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

    The 1906 edition of The English Hymnal is famed for the work of Vaughan Williams (though there are a number of folks who do not favor his use of English folks tunes for sacred hymnody, it was the shape of Things To Come for the next century of English hymnody). What's nice about it is that it's all public domain.

    Here's an image of the entire thing:

    http://ia600404.us.archive.org/30/items/theenglishhymnal00milfuoft/theenglishhymnal00milfuoft.pdf

    [screen 889=metrical index of tunes; screen 907= index of first lines]

    Another index to the same:

    http://www.oremus.org/hymnal/eh.html

    And on this page you can find a drop-down menu of many Anglican Communion hymnals:

    http://hymnal.oremus.org/
  • I concur about The Hymnal 1940 being a high-water mark of hymnal-making. I'm one of those who think The Hymnal 1982 has worn well, too...in my parish, a great many items are used from it every Sunday and principal feast day: four hymns plus a host of congregational bits (including, throughout the choir's summer hiatus, the Missa Marialis setting of the Cum jubilo chant Mass). The monks at St. John's Abbey, Collegeville, have The Hymnal 1982 in their stalls and use it often.
  • E_A_FulhorstE_A_Fulhorst
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    Anything to watch out for, doctrinally speaking?
  • Kathy
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    Perhaps you might enjoy sorting that out for yourself. I've found that lousy or wrong-headed hymns are just as instructive as excellent hymns. They show which mistakes to avoid.