Hymns, Psalms, and Spiritual Canticles
  • ContraBombarde
    Posts: 471
    Anyone got any copies of the ©1974 version of the Hymns, Psalms and Spiritual Canticles, organ edition, that they might be willing to sell??

    That and perhaps Music for the Order of Mass for Celebrant and Congregation, organ edition??
  • RagueneauRagueneau
    Posts: 2,592
    Michael,

    Since you have posted about this, I feel that the same people who E-mailed me will also E-mail you and send a PDF copy. The book is out of print. However, you might want to include your E-mail to make it really easy on them.

    In Christ,

    JMO
  • Liam
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    Just note: I doubt there is a PDF of the *first* edition requested, from the 1970s. I actually have the choir/organ copy of that, which I purchased used, as it's part of my collection of Ted Marier hymnals (including Cantus Populi and the Pius X Hymnal) that I've gradually gathered over the years to trace permissions and the evolution of his approach to liturgical music at the parish. The PDF that has circulating samizdat-like is from the more expansive *second* edition from 1983 (second printing, which reflects some corrections; I currently actively use this because my choir still sings from this).
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  • ContraBombarde
    Posts: 471
    Hi Guys,

    Yes, I am aware of the PDF files, thank you for the offer. I do already have them. I was hoping to find the older ©1974 version of HPSC. It seems to be even harder to find than the 1983 version.

    Thanks,
    Michael
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  • RagueneauRagueneau
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    Michael, I apologize for my error. Regarding the earlier version, some of it was hand-written, or am I wrong?

    By the way, the 2001 article on Marier said this:

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    http://musicasacra.com/publications/sacredmusic/pdf/sm128-3.pdf
  • Liam
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    It's not entirely typeset, if that's what you mean. The 1983 edition was engraved and photographed, et cet.
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  • Chris HebardChris Hebard
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    HPSC '74 has typewritten text, and musical notation in Marier's own hand.
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  • CGM
    Posts: 697
    It's on Scrib'd, here:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/37140915/Marier01
  • Liam
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    That is a segment from the second edition (1983).
  • ContraBombarde
    Posts: 471
    Thanks for the links, I do have the Marier PDFs. I was looking for the ©1974 version, which is not scanned to my knowledge.

    Nonetheless, I do appreciate everyone's response. If someone does pop up, and wishes to sell an extra copy of the 1974, please message me. Thanks.
  • G
    Posts: 1,400
    I am not near her, but have a friend who has what I believe might be the edition being sought - is this something she ought to donate, which could be cannibalized and scanned? is it even pulic domain?
    And to whom would she send it?

    (Save the Liturgy, Save the World)
  • Liam
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    It's not public domain.
  • JennyH
    Posts: 106
    It's not public domain.

    Actually, having examined it, large parts of it are public domain.
  • Liam
    Posts: 5,092
    Jenny

    I was talking about the book as a whole. The parts that use public domain texts and tunes are, as with any hymnal, public domain, but there is an awful lot (accompaniments/harmonies for most of the service work and almost all of the psalter, for example) and many melodies for the service music) that is (i) created by Dr Marier and John Dunn and other credited authors, and (ii) the engraving, as it were, is also not public domain. Et cet.
  • BachLover2BachLover2
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    "Actually, having examined it, large parts of it are public domain."

    This is true ... and the book is also out of print.
  • Liam
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    But out of print does not make it public domain. Just sayin'
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  • dad29
    Posts: 2,232
    I would send you mine--but it's autographed by Marier.....
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  • chonakchonak
    Posts: 9,215
    Some of the harmonizations and psalm settings were originally published by major music publishers (e.g., Oxford), and they quite possibly would object to reproducing their material without buying the rights.
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  • rich_enough
    Posts: 1,048
    Don't know where you are, CB, but perhaps you could borrow or at least inspect a copy at a library. WorldCat has a listing of libraries with copies (though records for the various editions seem to be conflated, unfortunately).
  • B. Ruelas Ford
    Posts: 15
    If anyone has any information on how I could purchase or obtain a PDF copy of this hymnal, could you please private message me? Thanks.
  • bonniebede
    Posts: 756
    I too would like a look at this hymnal if anyone has a pdf.
  • PhatFlute
    Posts: 219
    phil has heard of the hymnal hspc before, try a library,

    ph
  • chonakchonak
    Posts: 9,215
    Someone has put a copy on-line at Scribd, so some of it may be viewable (Scribd has become more restrictive about what you can view for free):
    https://www.scribd.com/nicholasjordansherwood8993
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