Sales figures from publishers?
  • ryandryand
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    I am working on a large paper that deals with the influence of major publishers and the content of their hymnals.

    Does anyone know where I can find figures on how many copies sold, or how many parishes use a particular hymnal or misallete?

    If I contacted the publishers directly, do you suppose they'd share this information?
  • Liam
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    As privately held companies, they would probably only give you whatever they'd use in public audience marketing - that is limited and cherry-picked. Any information of competitive value would likely not be shared.
  • ryandryand
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    Thanks Liam.

    I'm not meaning to compare or create competition with the figures, merely demonstrate their large influence on Catholic culture, by means of their widespread use.

    Would this be a well-recieved request?

    Of course I can always just ask them, but I want to frame the question correctly from the start. It would ruin my research if I got "blacklisted" (they dont want to communicate further) by asking the wrong question... Or even the right question, but worded in the wrong way.
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  • Liam
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    My experience of observing reps from these companies participate in blog discussions is that they are not going to cooperate more than is going to be a help to their companies, and will not cooperate with anything they have reason to suspect could put the companies in a bad light. And that's their legal responsibility to their companies under the civil law.... Unlike a publicly-traded company, which has certain public disclosure obligations, business data of privately-held companies is owned by the owners of the company and cannot be shared unless it furthers the interest of the owners.
  • Mike R
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    My guess is that you would get more accurate figures with an independent study that surveyed parishes across the country. I doubt that any such study has been done recently enough that it would still be relevant post-Roman Missal.
  • ryandryand
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    So, Liam, do you think it best that I explore other ways to prove their influence, rather than their secretive sales figures?
  • Liam
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    Well, even so, "proving" will be difficult once you realize that correlation and causation are not the same thing.
  • BachLover2BachLover2
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    GIA is a privately owned by a family (not sure they're Catholic). They will not disclose their books. OCP is a non-profit, and has to give you last year's books by law.
  • Liam
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    J.S. Paluch Co., Inc. (WLP's parent company) is family-owned, I believe.
  • ryandryand
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    Thanks everyone. This is all actually very helpful/useful.