Bach heavily influenced by Pachelbel
  • francis
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    Play these and tell me not.

    http://216.129.110.22/files/imglnks/usimg/1/11/IMSLP24161-PMLP02861-pacorg10.pdf

    Which of Bach's works does this heavily influence?
  • francis
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    OK... no one chimed in. Here is the answer.

    Listen to Bach's 'Die Kunst der Fuga' and hear the astounding similarity!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxNxPiJJwe0

    Pachelbel... highly underrated... highly overlooked... was a genius at the level of Bach.
  • Mark P.
    Posts: 248
    Compare the Bach Magnificat to the Pachelbel setting of the same text. Bach was sui generis.
  • francis
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    Mark:

    Every composer is sui generis. But there are incredible similarities, even down the intervals of the fugue and the harmonic content. Do you see (hear) it?
  • Michael O'Connor
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    Pachelbel may have gotten his due revival had it not been for that Canon and Gigue that found its way to the silver screen. I find his music to be a fascinating mix of German attention to detail with Italian charm. We should be promoting him more as he is the Catholic contemporary of Bach and Telemann (and Handel).

    I think we revere the Lutheran composers because of their perceived depth, which is residue from Romantic-era thought.
  • Mark P.
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    I am proudly and unashamedly Romantic. I had the privilege of hearing--in person--great conductors of the Romantic tradition. I'll take their interpretations any day over supposedly musicologically informed performances IF musicality is missing from the latter.
  • DougS
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    I think you are talking about two different kinds of Romanticism.
  • GavinGavin
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    Bach is an incredibly cosmopolitan composer. One can find more nationalities in a single one of his organ works than in a Trader Joe's frozen food aisle! Seriously though, the South Germans really did a fine job developing the fugue, although I think for organ work perhaps Buxtehude should be credited as the greatest influence upon JSB. I studied a few semesters ago the Prelude and Fugue in A Major - you can't tell me that doesn't have Bux's fingerprints all over it!

    Francis was right to point out the descent from the flatted La degree as characteristically Bach - take a look at the fugue from the Fantasy and Fugue in C Minor! I think the genius of Bach isn't just the numbers, but the beauty he creates with them. Something as cliched as a 9-8 suspension can become a moment of poignant beauty in his hands.
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