• AngelaRAngelaR
    Posts: 309
    I just took a job at a parish and am in charge of enhancing the music program there. Our pastor sometimes celebrates the EF. Music at this parish has been the responsibility of an organist for the past 5 years. Although never officially called "music director", and only being paid per Mass, she has virtually been working in the capacity of music director. She plans all the music, and schedules the minimally paid cantors. She also directs the adult choir, which sings about three times a year and is paid per head. The organist is 75, quite competent, and has previously taught music theory at fairly prestigious colleges.

    I come into the parish as a young professional vocalist, director of a diocesan chant program, children's choir director, and music teacher at the elementary school. I am forming a children's choir, will be starting a women's chant schola for the 8 AM Sunday Mass, and will be cantoring most Masses. I will be responsible for most of the organization of the music program as a whole, and as time goes on will hopefully be taking more and more of the other music responsibilities. However, I have minimal keyboard skills, and need this organist very much. We also do not want her to feel edged out of her role at the parish. She is a dear woman, and has given much of her time freely. She is competent, but not the sort of person to build a big music program on, and she knows that.

    So, the dilemma: what to call our respective job positions?
  • Liam
    Posts: 5,018
    Senior Organist and Associate Director of Music?
  • Music Director Associates.

    Puts both of you on equal terms. Gives her credit for her years of work and you credit for the knowledge you are bring to the job.

    Once had a similar situation, but was following a woman who was a real tiger. Started out by taking the hymns to the organist who had been there forever and had been badly treated by the tiger - who walked out on Palm Sunday - saying, "Here are the hymns that Father wants for Mass."

    One day I complemented her on her coat. She stopped me, hugged me and said, "We should not be enemies, we should be friends." and we were from then on. She and her husband had escaped from Hungary, came to the US and this church gave them a job, set them up in a house and they did great work until his passing, and then she took over.

    Eventually, when she is ready, she becomes music director emeritus.

    Thanks for asking us this question. Your sensitivity is appreciated.
  • Well, Angela, I think the "Associate" thing is also the finer path.
    But of course, we male DM's generally have our distaff partners who are infinitely more talented than we; so though I've always been the DM, I'm obliged to refer to my wife as "The Isis of our Caecilian Muse," or some such. MA, Singing Mum or MJB or AOZ ("Her Highness, My Queen") might wanna chime in.
  • BruceL
    Posts: 1,072
    Angela, I would generally avoid "senior" only because of the person's age. I think "Principal Organist and Associate Director of Music" is the way to go. Glad to hear you have a parish gig, too!
  • AngelaRAngelaR
    Posts: 309
    Thanks, all. Very helpful!

    I think the pastor and I are on the same page here on how to approach the situation with the parish, too. We both have high ideals for how the Liturgy is to be celebrated, but also realize that our personal needs might be a little ahead of the parish's needs at times. Paul himself talked about not giving meat to those who are not ready, and I'm keeping that in mind as I introduce this parish to chant. I know the parish's need to experience a more deeply reverent Liturgy through truly reverent and beautiful music, but they need to slowly discover that need themselves. I think that there is a sort of catechesis through music. First graders can't read War and Peace, and average parishes aren't ready for full-blown propers. But with time and the right education, people can be led a long way.
  • I like BruceL's titles. Or maybe just Organist and Choir Director.

    What you describe sounds like two people with competency on two very different instruments, organ and voice. You can concentrate on most (all?) of the vocal aspects while the organist can focus on organ and develop that sphere of of the liturgy. This can be a winning team for the parish when roles are clarified and respected and true collaboration takes place for any accompanied music.

    One vocalist to another, I recommend being as hands off as possible when programming organ pieces. Provided she has good liturgical sense, I'd completely leave that sphere to her. This has worked really well at the parish I'm at. I am delighted every week with what our organist chooses, and he has free rein on his instrument.
  • SkirpRSkirpR
    Posts: 854
    As a trained choral director and very very very (embarassingly) amateur organist, I've always wished more parishes were able to hire two people who are specialists rather than, as I have often found (although with some exceptions) one person who is more talented at one aspect to the expense of the other.
  • When working closely with another person like this, it is very helpful to plan to have a meal each week with them whenever possible.