PSA: Instruments Need Retuning During Longer Masses/Liturgies
  • SponsaChristi
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    There’s a reason why orchestras re-tune during performances. Instruments go out of tune within an hour or even less if a piece is particularly vigorous (especially for strings), or large crowds of people change the room temperature, instrument temperature changes after prolonged holding, etc. I realize it’s not always practical during Mass to do this, but after sitting through three long Masses/liturgies listening to string instruments slowly going out of tune and sounding like dying cats, and mentally preparing for Easter Vigil, if you’re working with more amateur string players, MDs may need to be more vigilant in managing their instrumentalists’ intonation.

    For example our choir loft has both a washroom and a music storage room lined in sound dampening acoustic foam there’s no reason why a string player couldn’t excuse his or herself to briefly take a tuner with them into such a room and retune, even better, investing in a headstock tuner (they’re not that expensive) that uses string vibration to tune rather than microphones, so you can retune mid-playing in loud environments.

    Failing that, maybe there’s a way to start a church musician scholarship fund to held fund private lessons for church musicians to increase their skill level.
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  • Richard MixRichard Mix
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    Papers have been written about the tonal schemes of JSB's organ preludes and how they dwell upon open strings, facilitating discrete tuning; this practice is even thought to demonstrate that some of Buxtehude's works must have been in different transpositions than the later sources give.
  • SponsaChristi
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    Papers have been written about the tonal schemes of JSB's organ preludes and how they dwell upon open strings, facilitating discrete tuning; this practice is even thought to demonstrate that some of Buxtehude's works must have been in different transpositions than the later sources give.


    I was thinking about something along these lines as well, but figured it would be too complicated. I didn’t realize it was a thing.

    Upon further reflection, it also could just be a musicianship skill thing and instrumentalists needing to keep working on developing their ear and adjusting. Even their runs during communion on Holy Thursday were like nails on a chalkboard because it sounded like their fingers were off, but that’s more manageable to deal with in the pews than sustained flat intonation.

    I’m an oboist and my one of my oboe teachers would insist on “perfect intonation” for every single note that I played in lessons. He frustrated me to no end and I dreaded going to lessons, but I developed a very good ear for intonation.

    On a more positive note, the professional hornist with the satisfyingly in tune 5ths and amazing tone quality has returned. I don’t want to make it sound like we have a terrible music program at my parish, because we don’t. We probably have one the best, if not the best in the diocese, and they are improving. They sang the Pange Lingua on Holy Thursday the best I’ve ever heard them sing it.
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  • CharlesW
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    Too bad we can't re-tune some of the singers.
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  • SponsaChristi
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    Too bad we can't re-tune some of the singers.

    I’m just praying the sopranos hit that high G in the Hallelujah Chorus.

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  • CatholicZ09
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    Yeah, can we re-tune the volunteer old lady cantor that should’ve given it up a few years ago, but everyone is afraid of being uncharitable by telling her it’s time to give it up?

    Asking for a friend…
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  • tandrews
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    The wolves of the choir loft were in the meanest of tones...

    /purple
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  • SponsaChristi
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    I didn’t mean for this to turn into an uncharitable venting thread for MDs.

    I was pleasantly impressed with this year’s Easter Vigil. Despite me being critical earlier about intonation, etc, which is something I struggle with, I would have to say, musically, this was the best Easter Vigil since Easter Vigil 2019, and only because our MD put out a fire in the choir loft while simultaneously directing the Byrd Kyrie and not a beat was dropped by either choir or MD. It’s hard to compete with that.
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  • CharlesW
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    One year the dimwit ushers brought the holy fire and container into the church and left it in the center aisle right below the choir loft. It smoked up the church and choked half the singers. I got it really bad since it was right below the organ console. I make a couple of suggestions to the pastor the following day. Don't let the ushers have matches or let those idiots anywhere near the holy fire again. He gladly concurred and we used candles the next year.
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  • SponsaChristi
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    One year the dimwit ushers brought the holy fire and container into the church and left it in the center aisle right below the choir loft. It smoked up the church and choked half the singers. I got it really bad since it was right below the organ console.

    Welcome to Western Canada every summer during forest fire season.
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  • CharlesW
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    We have gotten Canadian smoke as far south as Tennessee some years.
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