Variability in TLM Low Mass
  • a_f_hawkins
    Posts: 3,633
    In order to keep a parallel discussion on the NO free of extraneous comments.
    Because there were no rubrics for the people in TLM, there is actually a greater variety of option especially in a low mass. If you want to have a Jewish operatic tenor sing an Ave Maria over the opening rites of a funeral mass, have at it.
    It was quite possible to experience a Low Mass in which as one priest proceeded to the altar another ascended the pulpit, from which he led recitation of the Rosary throughout the Mass except for a pause at the consecration.
  • Felicia
    Posts: 144
    Thinking back to my childhood, before the NO became the norm, it seems that the priest sometimes omitted the Credo and/or homily if he was short on time. However, FWIW, this was in a chapel on an Air Force base. He might have had to hurry up in order to make the chapel available for the Protestant service the following hour.
  • GambaGamba
    Posts: 647
    A mentor told me of his terror as a boy learning to serve the Mass in the 50s. The pastor insisted that things move as quickly as possible and raced through his parts without regard for the poor little server. So the beginning of the Mass sounded something like

    P. & S. together: IntroiboAdadDeumaltarequilaetificatjuventutemmeam

    JudicaQuiametuDeuses,etDeusdiscernefortitudocausammea:meamquaremerepulisti,etquaretristisincedo,dumaffligitmeinimicus?

    Thanked by 1Abbysmum
  • AbbysmumAbbysmum
    Posts: 124
    P. & S. together: IntroiboAdadDeumaltarequilaetificatjuventutemmeam

    JudicaQuiametuDeuses,etDeusdiscernefortitudocausammea:meamquaremerepulisti,etquaretristisincedo,dumaffligitmeinimicus?


    In all fairness, I hear run-on, fast-as-you-can Masses in English all the time (they do occasionally come up for air!). The difference being that we are fluent in English, so we can follow along.

    It comes back to a point made in the other thread - it's maybe not inherent to the rite as much as it's about the persons involved and their adherence to the norms.
    Thanked by 1MatthewRoth
  • AbbysmumAbbysmum
    Posts: 124
    It was quite possible to experience a Low Mass in which as one priest proceeded to the altar another ascended the pulpit, from which he led recitation of the Rosary throughout the Mass except for a pause at the consecration.


    I've heard of that happening. I've seen it on occasion in the NO (not lead by a priest, but rosary-saying by individuals in the pews). Was that a common occurrence? If it was, I can see how those sorts of things would have influenced the dogma of "full and active participation".
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