Learning to sight-read on yout-tube.
  • canadashcanadash
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    I am looking for a sight-reading course available online for my choristers who are interested in learning or improving their skills over the summer. Does anyone have any suggestions? I would love something that would help choristers who do not sing melody as well. Thanks!
  • Bri
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    I haven't used it myself, but I've heard good things about Sight Reading Factory:

    https://www.sightreadingfactory.com/

    There are also apps like Perfect Ear -- but these tend to focus on isolated intervals only.
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  • SponsaChristi
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    Sight-reading is basically a comprehensive exam on aural skills. In order to learn/improve one’s sight-reading skills, one must ultimately learn and improve aural skills.

    I went looking for the same thing for myself, except for audition purposes. After spending hours trying to find a proper comprehensive and progressive sight-singing course for free on YouTube, I came to the conclusion that investing in a comprehensive methodology book that had online audio access would be the most effective for me.

    Sight reading is like learning to read. With rare exception, (I know one person who can sight read anything but cannot read music), you have to start with the fundamentals and practice a little bit every day until you become proficient and can hear the music in your head when you look at it. You can use hymnals for practice (I practice with the psalm refrains in old Breaking Bread hymnals), instrumental etude books (my oboe teacher makes me sight sing in our lessons before I play anything the first time), and I also practice scales, arpeggios, intervals, etc with a tuner and drone to reinforce good intonation and improve pattern recognition. In the end music is all patterns that repeat themselves in different keys. Eventually you become proficient in memorizing all of them.

    It’s great that choir members want to take initiative to improve their skills. It’s unfortunate that this isn’t given greater priority in parish choirs. I hate how church choirs are often just treated like a ministry anyone can do and they can’t advance in skill and sing from the Church’s rich patrimony of sacred music because of lack of skill and willingness to practice and improve.


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  • MatthewRoth
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    I know of a director who has budgeted to help pay for voice lessons. I think that for some members, particularly in big cities where there are all sorts of musicians looking for extra teaching work, you could substitute other more specific kinds of lessons. (I realize that finding a good voice teacher is quite difficult in the first place.)
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  • SponsaChristi
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    I know of a director who has budgeted to help pay for voice lessons.

    I’m not even talking about voice lessons. I’m just talking about developing musicianship skills. I never really took voice lessons. Some of the secular choirs I was in offered a set number of private vocal coaching sessions with vocal instructors, but that was it.

    Imagine if Dioceses pooled their professional music resources and had annual or semi annual workshops for choir members that had seminars for each skill level.
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  • Jeffrey Quick
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    I know one person who can sight read anything but cannot read music.

    As stated, this makes no sense; how can somebody not be able to read music and yet be able to read at sight that which he can't read? Is this a guy whose ear is so good that they can follow instantaneously? Can they still read when one-on-a-part?

    Totally agreed that literacy is key. Without it, our patrimony is closed to us. And educators (even Catholic ones) can't be relied upon to teach it (seriously, what else is music education about?). The first and most necessary step is to establish sight-reading as an expectation. Every new piece is read in tempo, and we keep going unless it breaks down. Then we fix things, usually by me singing along with the part (one of the perks of being a baritone). Other than that, we don't practice sight-singing in a disciplined way, but I will feed them necessary info, like how to find Do from key signature, or the difference between 4ths and 5ths. (I was entertained that Calabrese's Colloquium sopranos made that mistake; if even the cream can...). They sometimes complain that I'm teaching "music theory", and I say, "No, this is music PRACTICE; music theory is Schenkerian analysis." (One thing I treasure about Charlie Weaver is that he connects the geekiest things to real music making.)

    In defense of amateurs, though, it's got to be said that the state of literacy in the US even among pros is not what it should be. Singers should aspire to read like instrumentalists. This has always been an issue though. There's a story of Handel hiring a bass who was supposed to be a sight-reader, and being disappointed. "You told me you could read at sight!" "And so I can. Just not at FIRST sight."
  • AbbysmumAbbysmum
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    . I hate how church choirs are often just treated like a ministry anyone can do and they can’t advance in skill and sing from the Church’s rich patrimony of sacred music because of lack of skill and willingness to practice and improve.


    I wish more people understood this.

    I get it, because it is a ministry. But it's highly skilled and specialized, and it takes a lot of time and effort to develop. It's exactly this attitude that results in a lot of mediocre church choirs. Is having a mediocre choir better than having no choir? Depends who you ask. I personally would rather have no music than off-key, badly executed music.

    Imagine if Dioceses pooled their professional music resources and had annual or semi annual workshops for choir members that had seminars for each skill level.


    Wouldn't that be wonderful?
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  • canadashcanadash
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    Thanks for a great discussion. I did some more digging and found the following sites that I have sent out to my choir in hopes they may do some homework this summer.

    https://www.musictheory.net/lessons
    https://www.musictheory.net/exercises
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnJW8a26OA&list=PLxfJURRxSlEb9Tyq_OCuLqsdgfgW2K7Ms


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  • SponsaChristi mentioned books. For a structured and gradual approach, Kodaly's Elementary Exercises is good for less-skilled choir members, and Ottman's Music for Sight Singing is good for people who need more challenge.
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