New Chant Edition on Sale
  • FSSPmusic
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    This week, I am making my edition of the Proper of the Mass for Sundays and Holy Days available at print cost on both Amazon and Lulu. It includes the Masses for Sundays, first-class feasts, second-class feasts that may fall on a Sunday (1960 calendar), Ash Wednesday, and the Nuptial and Requiem Masses, in proportional rhythm according to the oldest extant sources. It does not include the Ordinary of the Mass/Kyriale, processional chants, the chants for the blessing of ashes, Good Friday, or the Easter Vigil. Psalm verses are included for each Communion, and offertory verses are included for the Masses at which solo organ playing is prohibited. Beginning June 9, the price will increase to US $15.99 (≈ €14/£12). Although the Lulu print and shipping costs are a little higher, the print is darker than Amazon's KDP. This paperback volume will eventually be replaced by a corrected and expanded hardcover edition. Sample pages are available here.
  • AriasitaAriasita
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    Congratulations! I’m sure so much love and heart went into this endeavor!
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  • smvanroodesmvanroode
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    Congratulations! Looking at the sample pages and the material on your website cantatorium.com, I have a couple of questions about the presentation:

    - I understand that you are trying to present an interpretation that follows the manuscripts closely. But why is the adiastemic notation missing, like it is done in the Graduale Triplex, the Graduale Novum and the Liber Gradualis?
    - You present the chants in their restituted form, but you have arranged them according to the 1960 calendar. Which groups did you have in mind that will benefit from your work? In my experience, groups using the former Missal tend to be wary of any restitution of chant, while groups actually singing from the restituted editions mostly use the current Missal.
    - There are a lot of episema’s in your edition; you introduced new note forms. Did you think of a notation that didn’t deviate that much from existing chant editions? For example, the Liber Gradualis by Alberto Turco and the work by Anton Stingl differ in their presentation, but still use a notation that is recognizable as something we have become accustomed to over the last 150 years.
    - Did you intend your chant edition as a study edition or as a practical book that scholas will sing from at Mass?
    - What is the added value of a print edition, when ‘this paperback volume will eventually be replaced by a corrected and expanded hardcover edition’ while ate the same time your work is also available on your website?
  • FSSPmusic
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    Thank you! To answer your questions:
    -In the preface, I recommend study of the Graduale Novum, but this is intended as a book for the parish schola, not the expert or aspiring semiologist. It makes no claim to be a duplex or triplex edition, which would increase the page count by 50% or more.
    -It is intended for the traditional Latin rite. In the the US, scholas singing full Gregorian propers for the TLM vastly outnumber those singing for the novus ordo. There is a wariness of change to be sure, but there are rather few places where the Solesmes method is followed faithfully. I think many choirmasters and cantors have never read the Rules for Interpretation in the front of the Liber, and plenty of Solesmes enthusiasts don't even know the ictus placement rules. The smartphone apps have increased awareness and appreciation of the chant repertory, but they have also added to the rhythmic confusion, with incorrect pauses at bar lines and uneven note values not characteristic of the Solesmes method. Those who neither understand nor follow the Solesmes method themselves are in no position to criticize me from departing from it in this publication!
    -The episema is used for the ordinary long note, which the Cardinians call the normal syllabic value, both in isolation and in composition. My notation is geared toward singers transitioning from the Solesmes editions, and the rhythmic signs are used in a somewhat analogous way: a note with the episema is longer than the plain note, and a dotted note is longer still. Already in 2021 I requested the addition of gregorio glyphs for the descending tremula/inverted quilisma and upper auxiliary notes mirroring the initio debilis glyph, but as far as I know, the developers have not implemented either feature, hence my use of white/hollow notes. I have also used a white/hollow note to show a weak beginning note that is altogether absent in one or several reliable MSS—although one must still have recourse to the MSS or at least a triplex edition to determine how it is actually notated in the sources that do include it. (The critical apparatus for the Novum indicates lots of initio debiles notes that can't be discerned from the triplex notation alone.) Are there other deviations in my edition that aren't used by Turco or Stingl? I can't think of any.
    -It is intended as a practical book to sing from. Again, I recommended the Graduale Novum to those who want a study edition. Incidentally, there may be a few solo cantors capable of doing so, but I'm not aware of a schola anywhere in this country singing complete Masses directly from the Novum, not a single one.
    -Everything included in the hardcover edition will probably also be available for free on my website. That makes the physical book redundant for those who like singing from the PDFs, but there are many who prefer a book. Are people not still purchasing the other chant books? We still pay $70 for a new copy of the Liber Usualis or $55 for the 1974 Graduale Romanum, both of which can be downloaded for free, or nicely formatted individual chants compiled into booklets. The hardcover will not be ready for at least a year, maybe several, maybe never, which is of no use to anyone that wants a printed and bound edition to use immediately.
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  • smvanroodesmvanroode
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    Thank you for addressing my questions so quickly and extensively. Surely, some of my questions had to do with a completely other situation here in the Netherlands. Most scholas sing at Masses using the current Missal, and singing from the Graduale Novum becomes more and more the custom.

    Are there other deviations in my edition that aren't used by Turco or Stingl? I can't think of any.


    I think you explained your choices sufficiently, but one thing I noticed in particular is the rendering of the distropha and tristropha.
  • FSSPmusic
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    The distropha and tristropha retain the same appearance as in the Vatican edition, which is surely "still a notation that is recognizable as something we have become accustomed to over the last 150 years." Laon 239, on which my edition is most closely based, writes the short strophicus notes as ordinary puncta, as do most sources other than those of the St. Gall school, or a pes if not unison.
  • ServiamScores
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    I received my (Amazon) copy today. I have to say, that while it is a pretty book, (although the cover is way off center, which I presume is more an Amazon on-demand printing issue than anything) the number of markings in the score is so burdensome that they are practically useless, tbh. To quote a certain movie villain, “When everyone is special, no one is special.” When 80% of the notes have a marking to lengthen them, you just ignore the markings. I appreciate the desire for nuance, but there’s a practical limit, and this is a bit much for me, I’m afraid.
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  • FSSPmusic
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    When 80% of the notes have a marking to lengthen them, you just ignore the markings. I appreciate the desire for nuance, but there’s a practical limit, and this is a bit much for me, I’m afraid.
    If you are interpreting the long notes as nuances rather than 2:1 proportions, or ignoring the markings, you're not singing from the edition as it's intended to be used. Please see the table of note values on p. xii. I haven't received my own copy yet but anticipated a problem with the Amazon cover. The previous volumes have accepted the same cover PDF as Lulu, but not this one, for whatever reason unknown to me.
  • smvanroodesmvanroode
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    I also mentioned that, for me, there are a lot (maybe too many) episemas. I fully understand that your aim is to represent your interpretation of chant faithfully. That interpretation is, for you, non-negotiable and I therefore won’t question it. But like James, I wonder if the notation is effective.

    I now have the urge to mark the short notes, just to be sure not to miss them. Did you consider other solutions to reflect your interpretation? Why did you choose to use an episema to distinguish between the 2:1 proportions, while that mark has a slightly other meaning in mainstream chant editions?

    I’m not judging, just asking for your motivation.
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  • ServiamScores
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    I now have the urge to mark the short notes, just to be sure not to miss them.
    I had the exact same thought.
  • francis
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    I think once you start to get into the realm where you’re really controlling the rhythm minutely from neume to neume, you might consider just using modern notation or a hybrid thereof.
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  • francis
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    One idea is to create a neume that is twice as wide, which can easily be done with a font app. I am a big proponent of hybrid notations. If you want me to draw an example, I can.
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  • francis
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    Here are examples I created in Adobe Illustrator using the Meinrad font. The last one expands the mathematics of all the vectors, the first two only expand certain vectors from the center point.
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  • FSSPmusic
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    Thanks, all, for your comments. Using the dot instead of the episema wasn't a viable option because of spacing issues with the compound neumes. One could use the space between notes to indicate length, as the Graduale Renovatum does, but that sometimes results in ambiguities about the value of final notes of groups (of course, the same could be said in some instances about the adiastematic neumes). Another possibility is to use white notation for the short notes, but that also causes some complications in "partially cursive" elements, and then there would be the problem of how to notate anything that's extra-short, i.e., the upper auxiliaries and passing tones mentioned above, until the developers have added the requested glyphs. Changing the spacing of 80% of the notes (to use James's estimate) or making 20% of the notation white would be a much more extensive alteration of the Vatican edition or neography than the addition of the rhythmic signs and, in my opinion, would be undesirable. What other means do we currently have at our disposal to differentiate long and short note values?

    As for using modern notation, I'm not at all opposed to that, but I won't be the one to typeset a whole book that way. Bear in mind that modern notation will nearly double the page count. As for the notes of double width, again using the 80% estimate, we would be increasing the page count considerably because of the space needed for the wide noteheads. What would a long pes or clivis look like with double-wide noteheads? A long porrectus? I have 387 pages of chant, and another 40 pages for front and back matter and section separator pages, 427 pages total. Triplex notation would increase the page count by nearly 200 pages. Double-wide notation might increase it more than 200. Modern notation would increase it by 300 or more. Modern notation and adiastematic neumes in a triplex format could result in a book of more than 800 pages. To what benefit? Let me reiterate that this is intended as a practical edition for the use of a parish schola to sing according to a mensuralist interpretation, not as a study edition for semiologists.

    I uploaded a new cover to Amazon last night, which should be live shortly. It is very strange that the required dimensions for the file size don't match Amazon's own print cover calculator. Amazon is cheap and quick, even without Prime, but you get what you pay for. The Lulu print quality is cleaner, darker, and better. Lulu does offer a global distribution option, but it jacks up the price another $8, not a penny of which makes it down to me.
  • matthewjmatthewj
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    Can’t we all just agree (beyond the reasons my friend cited for not using them) that the dot makes chant notation look terrible and that we should never use it again?
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  • Andrew_Malton
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    Remind me, what does the original notation use, that is crystal clear about the four or five lengths: why can't we use that?
  • igneusigneus
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    The doubled neumes in all their "beauty" (LilyPond, ly:stencil-scale)
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  • FSSPmusic
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    Remind me, what does the original notation use, that is crystal clear about the four or five lengths
    Mostly the punctum for the short (8th) and uncinus/tractulus for long (quarter). The mora vocis (half) is unnotated but added at the end of sentences or phrases. A rounded initial stroke is used for shorter notes (16th), or the addition of c and/or t recognized from context. What about the dotted quarter? I have used it most typically when an already long note with an additional t is followed by a single short note or a group of three shorts.
    why can't we use that?
    Well, the adiastematic punctum is a round dot, which doesn't exist in the square notation. I'm not inclined to clutter the square notation with the letters c, t, a, etc., when an episema or augmentation dot will do just fine. The neographical initio debilis form corresponds rather closely to Laon's rounded initial stroke. Even where they're in perfect agreement about the note values, Laon and St. Gall don't always use the same forms. Example 1: pes subpunctis (short). Laon writes torculus+punctum; St. Gall, pes+two puncta. The Vatican notation follows St. Gall. Example 2: short climacus: Laon writes three puncta, or two puncta+uncinus; St. Gall writes virga+two puncta, or virga+punctum+tractulus. Vat follows St. Gall. Example 3: unison tristropha. Laon writes two puncta+lineola (this terminology is disputed; some call it a tractulus); St. Gall writes a form that looks like an apostrophe, sometimes with an episema on the third note. Vat follows Laon.
  • FSSPmusic
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    igneus, it's not proper to the psalm tone example, but can you show us what a doubled pes, clivis, porrectus, and climacus would look like?
  • FSSPmusic
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    For comparison, here is part of a melisma from the gradual Universi for the First Sunday of Advent.
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    Line by line:
    1. Graduale Novum
    2. Graduale Renovatum
    3. Graduale Lagal
    4. The Proper of the Mass in Proportional Rhythm
    5. dots
    6. shorts white
    7. longs white

    I like 5 and 7 the least. Which do I like best? 4, and it's what I went with.
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  • igneusigneus
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    igneus, [...] can you show us what a doubled pes, clivis, porrectus, and climacus would look like?


    AFAIK those are impossible to do. Composed neumes seem to be immune to grob stencil transformations.
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  • FSSPmusic
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    I can do this kind of stuff easily enough with gregorio, but why? If we want to say a rectangle is long and a square or diamond is short, we might as well make them breves and semibreves and go back to Medicaean notation. Like modern notation, I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea, but I won't be the one to typeset a whole book that way.
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  • Charles_Weaver
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    I like numbers 1 and 4 best, unsurprisingly. I think this is because both respect the aesthetics of the original Solesmes/Vat notation, which has a peculiar way of spacing and a rather pleasing visual aesthetic, regardless of what you think of the free-rhythm theory. A profusion of episemated notes as in number 4 occurs in the Liber at the end of the Ambrosian Gloria, so it doesn't look entirely foreign.

    I guess the drawback is that Mocquereau's episema, being a notation sign added to the note, ought to lengthen the default value. But it doesn't really function as a sign of "lengthening" in this passage (and countless others like it), since the short note, being in the minority, hardly seems to strike the eye as the default value. It's rather the cursive notes that are the "shortening." Anyway, the short-as-default value was cooked into the Solesmes typeface from the beginning, so I don't think there's much a post-Cardinian editor can do about it without abandoning the Solesmes look altogether and going to something like modern notation.
  • MatthewRoth
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    I can’t remember who said it where but someone visiting the abbey described a conversation about interpretation wherein a monk of Solesmes described the post-Cardine long notes as all long and drew in the air an episema over the entire chant. I don’t necessarily hear it in the occasional recording of Dom Claire to which I listen. But it’s an interesting thought. (Of course, it’s still not proportionalism in a 2:1 ratio, but it’s not short-as-default either.)
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  • FSSPmusic
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    Charles Cole mentioned it in a 2012 article on the Solesmes Chant Tradition:
    As I was sitting around a table discussing this particular passage with some monks at Solesmes, the most elderly monk present wordlessly leaned over and drew a long line over all the notes. His understanding seemed pretty clear. A greater range of lengthening, and therefore variety of expression, is possible when both notes come under the episematic influence.
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  • MatthewRoth
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    Oh yes. I reread that article in the last year!
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  • Congratulations on finishing your book. It must have been a long labour of love. The sample text and notation provide the clearest presentation on proportionalism I've run across, and I understand it better than I did before.
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