Journeysings —thoughts?
  • amindthatsuits
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    Dear, all, my parish recently dropped, gather, and itself a good move, and adopted journeysongs a hymnal about which I know nothing. I was not around during that discussion at the parish. we do the best with what our parish decides of course, but does anyone have any insights into this particular hymnal many thanks. Kenneth.
  • kevinfkevinf
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    Another wretched book.
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  • francis
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    The title kinda gives it away.

    I think you should propose your change of words in the title… JourneySings… put a dot com after that boy you’ve got something to put out there!
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  • ServiamScores
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    I was happy to rid myself of it at a former parish when Covidtide hit. I never missed it.
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  • amindthatsuits
    Posts: 881
    I did correct it to songs but it didn’t stick. Yes I figured the title said it all. The director did a good job choosing from gather. proving it can be done, so I am not sure what motivated the change. I will do my best and pray while cantor

    .com sums it up if you have ever been to the sales party called
    nPM.
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  • amindthatsuits
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    Thanks for your comments not surprising overall
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  • SponsaChristi
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    It’s made by OCP, need anymore be said? Here’s the index for it. Be advised, if it’s anything like the other hymnals they put out, anything with chant will be in modern notation, the Latin will be nominal and the verses will be in sanitized English. Parce Domine has completely different verses compared to the English translations of the traditional chant.

    https://d1pnruen4y3jc6.cloudfront.net/shared/pdf/general/JS3_hymnalindexes.pdf
  • MitziCee
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    I'm sure it's not great, but back when I had to live with OCP's Glory & Praise, I came across a copy of Journeysongs and, comparatively, it seemed amazing. I remember thinking that it was an ironic title for a relatively conservative collection of hymns. I've just started work at a parish that uses Journeysongs, and it's liveable, at least, besides the bizarre OCP politically correct hymn texts. But if you are going to use OCP, it's probably one of the better options. I think it's comparable to Gather.
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  • francis
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    besides the bizarre OCP politically correct hymn texts. But if you are going to use OCP, it's probably one of the better options. I think it's comparable to Gather.
    And hence why compromise is always a slippery slope. Even if you don’t use the terrible stuff that’s in it, you financially support those who are promoting it. We need to check our conscience. As the old saying goes a teeny bit of poison, makes the whole thing poison.
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  • MitziCee
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    I don't disagree, Francis. I only remember my G&P days when I had no say in things and anything even remotely better felt like a drop of water in the desert.
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  • CharlesW
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    I used Gather Reprehensive when I played for school masses. I just chose the better hymns and left the bad ones out - you know, like the Frankenstein hymn, "We Are Many Parts." If you choose carefully you can use an inferior hymnal.
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  • ServiamScores
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    the Frankenstein hymn
    lol. I'm filing that away.
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  • francis
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    Frankenstein hymn, "We Are Many Parts."
    o geez... how unfortunately true is this in today's church.
  • RC_Liturgy_Music
    Posts: 16
    Hi!

    While most folks here will disagree with me, I will defend this hymnal! Hahaha. I am intimately familiar with it and researched it a number of years ago.

    The book, despite the pie chart OCP provides on their site, is approximately 50% hymns. The rest is mostly mainstream music. What I found was that the mainstream section is "tame" compared to other resources and there is little praise and worship/very contemporary music. It is the most traditional hymnal from OCP.

    Actually, I counted at one point. Excluding psalms and settings, I counted about 581 hymn/songs. Of those, I found 292 traditional items (hymns and chants), 252 mainstream items (mellow modern songs, folk songs), and 37 contemporary items (praise and worship feel).

    As someone who comes from an OCP parish and the clergy and people are insistent on keeping "One Bread, One Body" and the like, this hymnal is a great choice. There are plenty of hymns to choose from! Also, I worked at a Glory and Praise parish at one point and this is a MASSIVE upgrade (as @MitziCee also said).

    One other thing: I am sorry, but this hymnal is NOT comparable to Gather. Gather is 70% contemporary and 30% hymns, and the book is largely centered around social justice themes with VERY folky music. Gather is NOT JournerySongs, and I feel strongly about that. I've had to use both.

    In short, there are of course other options with more traditional music, but this is one of the best options from the big two publishers. And, I find that the texts are not revised like Worship or Gather, Yes, there are some I'm sure, but nothing like GIA.
  • RoborgelmeisterRoborgelmeister
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    OCP, Glory and Praise (newest edition): comparable to Gather Comprehensive
    OCP, Journey songs, comparable to Ritual Song
    That was the editorial intention 25 years ago.
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  • RC_Liturgy_Music
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    Absolutely agree - good comparison, one that I've also made to others. Thanks, Rob!
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  • contemporaryworship92
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    Having previously served at a parish with Journeysongs, I think it's the best option available from OCP or GIA. It has pretty much every hymn you would want and *most* of the modern music is good.

    Notably good modern songs in Journeysongs:
    -Christ, Be Our Light (Farrell)
    -Hosea (Norbet)
    -Ready the Way (Stephan)
    -Shout to the Lord (Zschech)
    -There is a Longing (Quigley)
    -These Alone Are Enough (Schutte)
    -Transfigure Us, O Lord (Hurd)
    -Ubi Caritas (Hurd)
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