I’ve read that he’s much more favorable to the TLM.

No one knows what he thinks about the TLM. Anything to the contrary is pure speculation and frankly copium.

Well, he's on the wrong side of things already with Amoris Laetitia, synodality, etc., and the synodal welcoming mat does not extend to folks who worship according to the 1962 Missal.

I have no idea about his liturgical preferences, but what I really care about is that he's from Chicago, and I'm from Chicago* and work in Chicago* (*well, the suburbs, though I lived in the city a couple years). There's a lot of excitement around here, and we think we will see a solid bump in attendance this weekend (more so than Mother's Day weekend and First Communions during weekend Masses already provide).

The CMAA site has the traditional prayers for the Pope and for the clergy, including a sample chant recording:
https://churchmusicassociation.org/leoxiv/

He wore a Roman chasuble because he was with the Sovereign Military Order of Malta at their chapel in Rome, where such is the custom. I don’t think that we can read tea leaves from it, just as we can’t from his pectoral cross placement, sometimes over, sometimes under the chasuble.

There is no proof that he had the indult, or even said it as prefect of the dicastery, and it seems extremely unlikely that we wouldn’t have learned about it from the Pillar, given that TC enforcement in the US is something which they write about (to the detriment of the faithful).

I’m not even trying to be a cynic or doom-and-gloom. There are just a lot of unknowns!

No, it really does not. (And I resent this, actually.)

And all I’m doing is contextualizing this: normally, we’d scold people for reporting negative unsourced rumors with not even a whiff of a name attached to them, but since it’s positive, it’s OK. Which is absurd. We just don’t know, and that’s supposed to be what we want.

As to the chasuble: it’s just not a tell of anything since there’s just one photo of one occasion in a place where that’s the house custom even today.

Mass today was celebrated in Latin, which is a departure from Francis's tendency to use Italian. Collects and preface dialogue were spoken instead of sung though, which is unfortunate.

His spoken Latin seemed pretty good. He kept his eyes firmly on the book, which suggests to me that he does not celebrate in Latin on a regular basis, but he also spoke with sufficient fluency to indicate that this was not his first rodeo (NB: this indicates nothing about his familiarity with the TLM).

That’s an anonymous rumor as far as I’m concerned. From a friend of the poster who talked to the elderly priest. Whee is the here? No one knows. Impossible to check.

And it’s ridiculous. We’d have known about it since he was the head of a global religious order before becoming a bishop and then was prefect for bishops at a time when TC enforcement as a priority — Prevost wasn’t perhaps the first choice, and he tried to work with Christophe Pierre (Prevost is never mentioned in reporting about some of the major appointments of the last two years).

There are far too many of us who are still in a very precarious position, and I think that if anything we still reserve the right to be, if not totally doom and gloom, then extremely cautious. Yes. It will be better than before. But that bar was on the floor. It is not especially hard to be nicer than Pope Francis. If the pope talks only about Our Lord, that will be a genuine improvement. But he can do that while having the worst commitments. And this is certainly a pick where it’s the most conservative guy that the liberals know.

Plus, it’s my actual spiritual life here. People can talk about how he’s not a fan of the Germans. Great. But TC is still a problem. People talk about how under Francis we needed to just not worry about the pope or the global church or other dioceses. Great. But TC.

The great hope that it would go unenforced was a delusion in the end. And in any case, inviting more disrespect for the law is not a good solution.

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Y’all need to chill… just remember… we don’t follow A pope… we follow the faith… If the pope follows the faith, we also wind up following a pope!

His address to the College of Cardinals this morning

https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/speeches/2025/may/documents/20250510-collegio-cardinalizio.html

FWIW, I doubt Pope Leo celebrated the TLM. Generally there are small indicators that priests who have celebrated awith some frequency tend to retain even when celebrating the NO (things like position of hands, etc.). As for vestments - traddie vestments are only a hang-up in the Anglophone world. In many parts of Central and Eastern Europe, you will find the most apalling abuses committed by priests wearing fiddlebacks and lace. It is seen more as the cultural patrimony there. Even the shrine which he visited yesterday uses them.

It's an achievement to have everyone from the ecclesiastical left and the right so far optimistic or cautiously optimistic about the papacy. That makes me optimistic.

I already saw the video on the watch. $70 bucks and that puts him right in the tradition of Pope Francis…

Oh man, I gotta go out and get one of those watches! Please post pic!

He sang more of his dialogues during his first Mass with the Cardinals than his predecessor did in 12 years. Do I wish he sang the whole Mass? Obviously.. but just on this point alone, it’s a massive improvement.

And I get the feeling we’re going to see more and more improvements.

For many, the past 12 years has been pretty traumatic. It’ll take time to move past it.

Long live the Pope.

Liturgically traumatic? You’d use the same word that is placed after sexual, after emotional, and a whole host of other life debilitating experiences to describe the Franciscan papacy? I love liturgy. I love it when it’s well done, but I also love careful, thoughtful, and sensitive word choice.

careful, thoughtful, and sensitive word choice.

Well, it could be too strong of a word choice but I failed to come up with another one at the moment… I’m not really talking about the liturgy here in that instance. There’s a lot more there to unpack and folks who are better writers and researchers than I will write about it in the coming years, I’m fairly sure.

The Jesuit liturgical culture has long trended low/no-fuss, neither minimalist, nor, until the generation formed after Pope Francis, "creative". (A sardonic liturgical aphorism I learned when I was younger was "lost like a Jesuit in Holy Week" - which served as a warning to review plans for non-ordinary liturgies in advance with a Jesuit celebrant.) The Jesuits traditionally elaborated more with popular devotions and missions (in that regard, somewhat like their contemporaries, the Oratorians) than with the Mass itself (unlike the Oratorians), not being an order whose members normally acculturated around conventual celebration of the liturgy. Certainly, there were/are noted Jesuit liturgical scholars, but that specialty doesn't come as naturally to Jesuits as to those from branches of the Benedictine family of orders and, say, Dominicans. Of the great mendicant orders of friars founded in the High Middle Ages, I've had the least exposure to Augustinians in liturgical contexts.

"Soberly" is a good word to associate with the non-abusive/"creative" form of Jesuit liturgical culture for celebrating Mass. There would definitely be preaching, but it would definitely be concise.

"Our people"=liturgists actually concerned with the liturgy and folks who love the traditional Latin Mass.

@chonak are there any documents with these arguments. I would be really interested in reading that.

What are the only two things that don't change at a Jesuit Mass?

The Lord Works Marvels for Us All
Hymn for the life and ministry of Pope Leo XIV

The Lord works marvels for us all!
His words and deeds our hearts recall
And come to know His saving ways
In thankfulness and quiet praise.

The world, in need of Jesus Christ,
Who for our sake was sacrificed,
Awaits the word we have been taught:
The news of what His blood has bought.

Then let us pray in joy and hope
For Leo, universal Pope,
That God will give him grace to bear
The cross of all the Churches’ care.

O Beauty, ancient, ever new,
Make him a light that leads to You.
Let Peter’s message sound abroad:
Christ Jesus is the Son of God.

And Mary, too, our hearts implore,
By the Incrnate God she bore,
Who saved her as she came to be,
To guide Pope Leo’s ministry.

O God the Father, Spirit, Son,
In Whom alone we live as one,
Bring us, bring all, to share Your peace,
And let Your grace and truth increase.

Tune: EISENACH or any suitable LM hymn tune
Text: Kathleen Pluth, Permission to use given through June 2025, all other rights reserved.

Well, Irish Jesuits might well do so; it's may be downstream of Englishing of the ways of the Irish language's manner with questions, to reframe them in response, because yes/no were customarily not arrows in the Irish response quiver.