Reminder to readers: how to treat job announcements posted here
  • chonakchonak
    Posts: 9,239
    Dear Readers,

    I'm posting this reminder about a custom we follow here on the Forum.

    Here's the short version: Please don't post comments on a job notice: if you do, I'll probably delete them.

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    In fact, I did that today.

    Job announcements on the Forum usually have a note from me, saying that the post has been "closed to comments as usual." That practice has ongoing since our friend Jeffrey started the site ages ago.

    The purpose of this practice is to be very welcoming to employers. We want them to post their job notices, regardless of the style of music, the style of the building, the type of organ they have, etc. They don't even always have to be announcements for Catholic parishes. We want our readers to have the maximum of opportunities to choose potential jobs.

    If you're old enough, you may remember how newspapers used to include job notices in their "classified ad" section. (It was like 'Craigslist', before the internet.)

    Those ads didn't give anonymous strangers space to argue about the employer, the pay, or the job duties.

    And following that pattern has worked: as far as I can tell, this Forum is one of the top sites for job announcements in Catholic church music in this country.

    It's understandable if some of our readers might look at a job notice and decide it's not a great job. But there's really no need for you to add comments and say so. You can trust your fellow readers to use their good judgment.

    If there is some issue you want to talk about, do not post your comments on the same thread. It's OK to start a new thread about the topic that concerns you -- but please don't name names: that's not necessary and not friendly.

    Thanks for understanding.
  • ServiamScores
    Posts: 2,933
    Sorry.
  • NihilNominisNihilNominis
    Posts: 1,034
    I have often been encouraged by, and of course been responsible for, positive notes posted under job listings by people with direct knowledge. For example, “I know this church and it’s amazing. Father X is terrific and the people sing really well!”

    Is that also discouraged?
  • ServiamScores
    Posts: 2,933
    Nihil, I very much doubt it. Such positive remarks are usually welcome and give [happy] context.

    There were two comments on a post two days ago, one of which I was responsible for. The other addressed something music-related, and wasn't without its merits IMHO, but I commented about how I don't understand the current US obsession with building churches in the round. (I was commenting on a rendering of the church once it is remodeled.) I have no doubt that this rather left-field remark is responsible for this thread, which is why I apologized above.
  • matthewjmatthewj
    Posts: 2,702
    There were two comments on a post two days ago, one of which I was responsible for. The other addressed something music-related, and wasn't without its merits IMHO, but I commented about how I don't understand the current US obsession with building churches in the round. (I was commenting on a rendering of the church once it is remodeled.) I have no doubt that this rather left-field remark is responsible for this thread, which is why I apologized above.


    I almost commented in the same thread to mention that their capital campaign information includes adding acoustical tile to deaden the space.
  • ServiamScores
    Posts: 2,933
    Also relevant, imho. One of my predecessors took up the role and shortly after his arrival (moved from another state) the cathedral was remodeled and carpeting and padded chairs were installed, and he was totally blindsided by it. It drastically changed the acoustical environment, as you can imagine, and he was none too pleased. I would certainly want to know if the acoustics were being tampered with before taking a job.
  • chonakchonak
    Posts: 9,239
    Happy context is fine, but I still will close the announcement to comments when I see it.