1962 Sundays
  • Palestrina
    Posts: 437
    Has anyone compiled a list of feasts that take precedence over a Sunday in the '62 Missal?

    Would be handy to have this on hand for preparation.
  • trentonjconn
    Posts: 655
    Cantica Nova has done this, though I can't be positive it's complete.

    https://www.canticanova.com/planning/ef/p_feasts.htm
    Thanked by 1Palestrina
  • Liam
    Posts: 5,159
    I believe this is the correct link (the one above circles back to here):

    https://canticanova.com/planning/ef/p_feasts.htm

    I am curious about St Joseph, as it always falls during Lent: the rubrics for the 1962 Missal indicate that Sundays of Lent and Passiontide are of higher precedence than Class I feasts.
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  • Casavant Organist
    Posts: 810
    I believe St Joseph has the right of transfer to the next day.
  • FSSPmusic
    Posts: 311
    The CanticaNOVA list is incomplete. In fact, I sent them an e-mail 2.5 years ago asking that they consider adding St. Joseph the Workman (May 1), Precious Blood (July 1), St. Michael (September 29), and Holy Rosary, which gets an external solemnity on the first Sunday of October.
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  • MatthewRoth
    Posts: 2,475
    The list is I class feasts of the universal church plus II class feasts of the Lord.

    That’s wrong. Patrick’s point suggests that perhaps that they confused the two feasts.

    All Souls is also transferred to Monday. That’s such a fundamental error that I’m annoyed.

    Also, the Purification comes with qualifications. Easter has to fall late for it to displace a Sunday as it cannot bump a ’gesima. It is reclassified as a feast of the Lord, so the commemoration of Sunday is omitted; this change gives it I Vespers when falling on Sunday and allows it to displace a Sunday after the Epiphany as II class feasts of the Virgin fall below these Sundays.

    But what a depressing list. All of the Apostles are gone. In fact, a parish doing pre-55 does Saints Philip and James on May 1 when 1962 does the new feast of Saint Joseph.

    The other (double of the) II class feasts, gone — October 7 is an interesting case anyway since it can’t fall in the first Sunday of the month, and I don’t even care much for the high rank of the September 15 feast, but the Nativity of the BVM is much more ancient. That feast disappeared in the 1962 last September.

    Saint Lawrence and Saint Bartholomew fall on a Sunday this year. Poof. Gone.
  • Liam
    Posts: 5,159
    When 3/19 falls on a Sunday it is likewise transferred to Monday in the OF, except if that Sunday is Palm Sunday, in which case it's transferred to the Saturday.
  • Palestrina
    Posts: 437
    Thanks for your contributions and help, everyone. I've also found this nifty pdf that I'm posting here as it clarifies the 1960 rubrics nicely:
    https://acss.sspxusa.org/rubrics/general/Classifications-of-Feasts.pdf
    Thanked by 1Liam
  • MatthewRoth
    Posts: 2,475
    The SSPX editorial commentary annoys me. The 1960 scheme ensures a conflict between the Ember Days of September and the feast of Saint Matthew more often than not, since the first Sunday of the month in the breviary (after August when we switch to that scheme to read as much of the OT readings of the breviary as possible) is always on the 1st or later, pushing them off by a week from the pre-1960 frequently celebration, and then the comments about the collects bear no relation to reality particularly since no one was ever obligated to say the maximum permissible number of collects at private Masses other than the three or rarely four required by the rubrics (at most).

    They’d be of greater service if they stuck to the summaries.
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  • SponsaChristi
    Posts: 443
    If there’s one thing I learned from my time in choir/schola it’s this; regardless of what any liturgical calendar, rubrics, etc say, always confirm with the priest who will be offering the Mass on that particular Sunday. Nothing says fun like finding out less than 30 minutes before Mass is about to begin that the priest will be saying the Mass which the Sunday Mass is supposed to supersede after you’ve spent hours rehearsing the full propers for the Sunday Mass. Thank goodness for being gifted with strong pattern recognition and good sight reading skills.
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  • MatthewRoth
    Posts: 2,475
    I would hate that priest. We had a mistake happen once and our priest then sent us the Masses for the year which would deviate. Now we’re on a rhythm where that won’t happen again.
  • tomjaw
    Posts: 2,804
    I usually programme as much music as possible to celebrate the feast. So the only change will be the Propers, if the priest demands we follow the deficient 1962 calendar.
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