This is something that has always bothered me too. I've heard priests (and laymen) make cavalier comments about how the "program should be structured so it can run without you" etc. etc. This is almost never possible, imho. I know there are people who achieve it, but it's rare as hen's teeth. I have worked up programs that became relatively advanced and stable, but the moment I left, everything changed. They can change because of successor, or because of a new priest with a different agenda. (One program crumbled out from under me due to a new priest who fought my every move.) There are SO many variables that contribute to a program; they aren't just windup clocks that run on their own. One choir I had became relatively advanced and we were chanting propers every week (often in Latin for high days), singing a latin motet nearly every week, and even did polyphonic ordinaries a cappella for holy days. Then I had a massive number of people shift through the choir: 4 went away to college, two retired, one was away due to frequent college football games where her son was a starter, two people passed away, etc. etc. Next thing you know, this advanced group had lost so many people due to uncontrollable circumstances, we had to completely recalibrate. And this was while I was still at the helm and the very supportive priest was still pastor. It just... happens.What happens if the money dries up? Your donor dies. You run down the endowment carelessly. You decide to leave, and a less charismatic or less experienced successor replaces you. Then you’ve got nothing. I’ve seen it happen.
[name redacted] are you faithful in the pews ready to engage in weekly rehearsals + music theory lessons to improve and learn? This would nonetheless require a professional to teach you (how many of you?), and you wouldn't still be able - nor are you actually required - to chant the propers of the Mass and vespers every sunday: you would need a professional for that, and for leading a chant schola.
Yes. But you want volunteers. You don’t hate parishioners. You can take negative feedback. I’ve met plenty of directors who hate volunteers, who hate any negative feedback, no matter how it’s expressed. They become nasty and vile to the point where people want nothing to do with the music.
And in fact, your solution is what I’d propose!
Another comment:[name redacted] are you faithful in the pews ready to engage in weekly rehearsals + music theory lessons to improve and learn? This would nonetheless require a professional to teach you (how many of you?), and you wouldn't still be able - nor are you actually required - to chant the propers of the Mass and vespers every sunday: you would need a professional for that, and for leading a chant schola.
A) even pros are hard to keep around B) this attitude is vile. We have long run the show ourselves. Non-professionals and rank amateurs can learn, it’s just that they have different problems coming to sacred music than people who trained in a degree program. And I’ll take the former problems over the latter.
Besides plenty of places manage to sing the propers well on their own (and Vespers! I have not needed a professional to teach Vespers, which the faithful also sing!).
there is not room in the NO liturgy for excellent music
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