There doesn't have to be only one vernacular language in a country, region or parish.

Latin.

Latin.

Latin.

Down with the vernacular and the tower of Babel. People using all sorts of different languages is a curse, not a boon.

Hawkins,

Bugnini didn't want to promote Latin or chant, so I would find it difficult (but not impossible) to conclude that in Italy, specifically he wished to promote Latin chant.

His disdain for musicians is palpable on every page in which music is discussed.

All I’ll add is that I work at a bilingual parish, and it sure would be lovely to just chant Latin ordinaries and unify the masses. One pater noster between them would be great. Even the lowliest of our immigrants is literate, even if they aren’t “educated”. It’s not that hard, folks. (To be clear, we are working in the direction of that which I propose. I just wish we would get there faster, is all. Don’t we all.)

Charles,

No, not to my knowledge.

Hawkins,

No offence intended, but regardless of what the document appears to say, in Bugnini's hands the "provided that...." is the equivalent of my saying that I wholeheartedly embrace the use of Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion provided that their use is entirely consistent with the constant practice of the Church for two millenia.

IT's an empty set.

Does not sacred silence foster participation? GIRM has always made a feature of sacred silence. Obviously polyphony does not encourage the faithful in the average parish to join in singing it. So participation has a broader meaning than exercising the vocal cords; "the music aided their prayer",

Sacrosanctum Concilium has not been useful to me in determining whether an influx of people in so great a number changes the vernacular from the language of the native people. There are some in my parish who insist that the vernacular is now considered to be Spanish- this includes some Anglophones who shrug their shoulders and say “oh well.”

Surely there would be very few parts of America where a First Nations (ya know, the actual native people) would be considered the vernacular?

@CharlesW

baloney... our choir does the best of Victoria, Lassus, Byrd, Palestrina, etc., ...every week for the Missa Cantata... and they don't even have a sight-reader or a section leader that can read music.

How does looking for clarification devolve into ascribing a less-than-honorable motive to the inquirer?

Gamba,

One small fly in the ointment: Latin is an immortal language, whereas English is in the middle of a fight for its survival, and seems to be losing.

Richard,

I'm only slightly familiar with the Great Replacement Theory, and I'm not (in this case) advancing some cloak-and-dagger, internationalist cabal, crackpot idea.

Let me try again, so that I can be adequately precise.

Ecclesiastical and Classical Latin are the native languages of no living being or group of living beings. The words which the Church uses in her doctrinal definitions are clear in their meaning -- in the Latin, whether there is an exact one-to-one correspondance in any modern language or not -- precisely so that what is required to hold doctrinally (and what is not required, but open for debate and discussion, such as whether Mary died before being assumed into heaven) is clear.

English (be it that spoken in New York City, or Brisbane, Australia or anywhere else, for that matter) is, in fact, a living language, subject to change in vocabulary. Some of the changes which take place are naturally occurring, organic changes, while others are not natural or organic. Words change in their meanings.

English is fighting for its life because of the pace of the change and the means by which that change is occurring, at least to some degree. Ray Bradbury asserted one means (government control) when he described people who set fires as firemen, not those who extinguish them. Another (more recent) example is the change of the word fireman to the expression fire fighter. Firemen fought fires, but they also rescued kittens from trees. Fire fighters (as their name suggests) fight fires. People from various countries and cultures to the west of the Pacific Ocean used to be called by many speakers of English "Oriental" -- people of the East. Now that term is taken to be a throw-back to colonial times and understandings, whether it is or not. Some of this change has been effected by well-meaning people, some has been effected by growing or shrinking awareness of various things.

In the Ecclesiastical sphere, which is the focus of this forum, in some circles "altar boys" is acceptable, but in others "altar servers" is required, to allow girls to be altar boys. The Sacrament of Confession (or Penance) is now known (almost as a litmus test) as Reconciliation -- and this change was imposed by people who said that children couldn't understand large words (which contention is verifiable).

As another example of a language which is fighting for its life, I read a French headline recently, which was using so much English vocabulary as to do violence to the language (I'll find it, if you want) and there are people who are trying to create "inclusive, gender neutral" forms of French.